moocowtex
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I'm guessing you meant Northwest had more widebodies in their previous merger, not more than Delta. Northwest has a few whales and 330's, but Delta has FAR more widebodies.
DAL/NWA: It's Official
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I'm guessing you meant Northwest had more widebodies in their previous merger, not more than Delta. Northwest has a few whales and 330's, but Delta has FAR more widebodies.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Not always, but it's quite common with mainline ALPA carriers.
Oh, I think they've known about it far longer than that. You think Richard Anderson came on board last year just to run another airline? No way. I'd bet anything that the Board coaxed him over by offering him the chance to preside over the biggest airline merger in history. This has been in the works for a long, long time.
That's an urban legend. As long as NWA survives in a merged carrier and isn't parted out in small pieces, the Asian rights are transferrable to the surviving carrier.
Screw that! They need to go back to the classic widget. Now this was a livery:
Unfortunately, I think that's inevitable now unless the new DAL management agrees to give them a hell of a lot to settle it amicably. I like Captain Moak, but he's pissed off the cobras now. Dumb move. And Captain Prater is even dumber (something that he's quite consistent at, it seems) for allowing this to happen. Allowing one ALPA MEC to settle a unilateral contract that leaves out another ALPA MEC in a merger is suicide. Apparently Prater didn't learn any lessons from the AAA/AWA abortion that he also allowed to happen. Anyone want to place bets on how long it will take for the NWA guys to get uSAPa 2.0 started up? Stupid, stupid, stupid!
Oh, I think that's a cakewalk compared to what we're about to see with this merger.
MDPilot
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Not counting DAL orders for 777 and NWA orders for 787,
DAL
777:10
767-400ER: 21
767-300ER: 60
767-300: 20
Total 111 widebodies
NWA
747 28
330 32
Total 60 widebodies
So who has more widebody flying again?
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Are you beginning to see how USAPA has very little to do with trying to reorder the list and EVERYTHING to do with merger protection down the road? Right now the Allegheny Mohawk merger protection provided by Federal law is a hell of a lot better looking then ALPA's policy.
You're right... it is going to be ugly. If USAPA ends up winning and the airline doesn't shut down overnight, I can fully see the cards starting to go out at NWA.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Uh, NO, that's not what I'm seeing. uSAPa is about the Nic award. That's all.
The problem isn't the merger policy, the problem is dimwit in the President's office in Herndon. If there was someone in office that actually knew how to lead, then this problem would have been taken care of properly. You do realize that ALPA merger policy isn't even involved in this so far, right? The agreement that DALPA made with Delta management is completely outside of the merger policy. Merger policy doesn't come into the picture until a merger has already been announced and a PID is declared. DALPA reached a unilateral agreement prior to any of that taking place. This is a whole different set of problem outside of merger policy.
You're probably right. And if both NWA and AAA pilots leave ALPA, then that will probably mean the end of the Association. Then Prater's legacy will be that of the man who destroyed the 76-year old union that did everything to advance this profession. At least I'll be able to say that I supported the other guy.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
They could always form a mega regional!
O great!!!!, why don't I just buy a beer for all the people on this thread??
Yes please.
WalterSobchak
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You have a different pay scale for the 763 and 764? If Im not mistaken?
MDPilot
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Wait a minute, do you want to compare payscales or numbers of widebodies. We can go either way, just tell me.
SmoothLanderJ
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Absolutely disgusting.......makes me want to puke! I dont have a problem with Delta at all, but I sure hope that this merger doesnt go through.
I read the NW ALPA e-mail earlier on this thread and how they were opposed and were going to try to stop it. How could they stop it, or what other factors could potentially prevent this merger from happening?
I'm not sure.
I sure in hell don't want it either.
But pretty much the only power I have in this whole thing is, well, hmm... holding my breath until the hedge funds, creditors, CEO's and other merger cheerleaders feel guilty because I'm turning blue. Well purple I guess (brown + blue? I dunno).
I sure in hell don't want it either.
But pretty much the only power I have in this whole thing is, well, hmm... holding my breath until the hedge funds, creditors, CEO's and other merger cheerleaders feel guilty because I'm turning blue. Well purple I guess (brown + blue? I dunno).
JA Yawd Bwoy
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Ok This Is The End Of The Beer Line!!!!!!!
Those Of You Who Wisely Posted Before This Get A Free Beer, Whenever I See You (diego) And The Rest At Njc2009!!!
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Those Of You Who Wisely Posted Before This Get A Free Beer, Whenever I See You (diego) And The Rest At Njc2009!!!
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In this particular thread, or throughout the entire website, all threads inclusive?
Son, yo betta get a lawyer!
Nick
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Ok This Is The End Of The Beer Line!!!!!!!
Those Of You Who Wisely Posted Before This Get A Free Beer, Whenever I See You (diego) And The Rest At Njc2009!!!
Can I post un-wisely if I'm okay with buying my own beer?
JA Yawd Bwoy
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SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Unfortunately, there isn't much that the NWA MEC can do to stop the merger. The most they'll be able to do is submit a briefing to the DOT and DOJ about why they oppose the merger and what negative affects they think it will have for the economy and the consumers, but since the government departments are controlled by Shrub appointees, the opinions of a labor group won't mean anything. I guarantee that both managements have already made certain that their connections in government will see this merger approved. This is why it's so dangerous to have such a big-business-friendly administration in Washington.