RJ course or 100 hours?

TheOneMarine

TheOneMarine

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So I got the call today from ASA, was told they want me and will offer me an interview but I need either 90 more hours (to reach 500TT) or a RJ transition course. I'm instructing in NE Ohio, the weather is getting crappy and the hours (and my pay) are diminishing. Ideas, thoughts, help.
Please don't make this into a "let me preach my philosophy" thread. Keep that in the Lav. Thanks:nana2:
 
I've never taken an RJ course, but my opinion is if your just going to write a check and jump in a seminole and fly GPS-direct cross countries back and forth between the same two small uncontrolled fields in blue sky weather for 90 hours, you might learn more in an RJ course.

So if you do buy the time try to make it worth while. Fly places you've never been, fly in actual, and some at night, go to larger airports, shoot approaches, master your engine out flying, etc.
 
Clocks said:
I've never taken an RJ course, but my opinion is if your just going to write a check and jump in a seminole and fly GPS-direct cross countries back and forth between the same two small uncontrolled fields in blue sky weather for 90 hours, you might learn more in an RJ course.

So if you do buy the time try to make it worth while. Fly places you've never been, fly in actual, and some at night, go to larger airports, shoot approaches, master your engine out flying, etc.
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Dont pay for a job.....They wont hire you right now unless you pay 6 grand for a course that they will teach you in ground school anyway and actually pay you while you are there....For god's sake, go do some flyin and actually enjoy it and have something to show for it in your logbook.....
 
My thoughts on it are that getting actual flight time will benefit you more then buying an RJ course. ASA or any other airline will train you, you don't need to go in there with prior RJ training when they will give it to you. They will even pay you for this training.
 
TheOneMarine said:
So I got the call today from ASA, was told they want me and will offer me an interview but I need either 90 more hours (to reach 500TT) or a RJ transition course. I'm instructing in NE Ohio, the weather is getting crappy and the hours (and my pay) are diminishing. Ideas, thoughts, help.
Please don't make this into a "let me preach my philosophy" thread. Keep that in the Lav. Thanks:nana2:
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With all due respect, by asking for the former you will precisely get the latter.
 
Clocks said:
Fly places you've never been, fly in actual, and some at night, go to larger airports, shoot approaches, master your engine out flying, etc.
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Don't bother with the RJ course, seriously. You've got a really cool opportunity to be able to fly a plane to a TON of places, get some time and just think of the adventures & things you could see!
 
Take the RJ course - it will increase your odds of making it through training successfully. It's not a PFJ type of deal, they just want you to have more hours: either X hours of actual flight time, or Y hours of RJ training.

Plus flying the RJ simulator is safer. :)
 
Murdoughnut said:
Take the RJ course - it will increase your odds of making it through training successfully. It's not a PFJ type of deal, they just want you to have more hours: either X hours of actual flight time, or Y hours of RJ training.

Plus flying the RJ simulator is safer. :)
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If you choose the RJ sim because it's safer then real world flying then you really need to re evaluate why you even fly airplanes to begin with.
 
Devildog . . . do NOT purchase some RJ course. If they don't want to take you as you are, to hell with them . . . just go back when you have 100 multi.
 
It's 100 hours...

You could make that in one month of instructing (two tops).

If you want to just buy the hours; like others said, do something new.
 
The RJ course gets you the job, ok...the 100 hours goes into your logbook and makes your TT bigger! The more tt you have the closer to the atp you are! with the atp, the closer to the left seat you are!

as was said above, they will teach you to fly the RJ their way anyway, go build some real time and real experience!

just my cent and a half worth:crazy:
good luck!
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Devildog . . . do NOT purchase some RJ course. If they don't want to take you as you are, to hell with them . . . just go back when you have 100 multi.
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I was mostly joking with that - but I think guys on here are down on RJ courses simply because they associate them with PFJ. If that's PFJ, then any hour you fly for time building purposes above your CPL is PFJ too. It's still time building, just in a more structured/aircraft specific environment. I don't see what the big deal is. You guys bitch when a low time pilot makes the line and doesn't know what the fudge he's doing - now you bitch about a program designed to make them a better FO, and you bitch about that too. I just don't get it.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I was mostly joking with that - but I think guys on here are down on RJ courses simply because they associate them with PFJ. If that's PFJ, then any hour you fly for time building purposes above your CPL is PFJ too. It's still time building, just in a more structured/aircraft specific environment. I don't see what the big deal is. You guys bitch when a low time pilot makes the line and doesn't know what the fudge he's doing - now you bitch about a program designed to make them a better FO, and you bitch about that too. I just don't get it.
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The problem with the RJ courses is it does nothing to make you a better FO. All it does is give the company a warm fuzzy that you'll get through initial. Once you're on the line, most of that stuff goes out the window and you're a liability to the guy in the left seat. That's the problem most have with these courses.

And, yes, I saw your smilie, but still thought it was a very poor statement for this industry and where it's going.

I'm sure others will have a lot more to say...

Go get experience. Period.
 
TheOneMarine said:
So I got the call today from ASA, was told they want me and will offer me an interview but I need either 90 more hours (to reach 500TT) or a RJ transition course. I'm instructing in NE Ohio, the weather is getting crappy and the hours (and my pay) are diminishing. Ideas, thoughts, help.
Please don't make this into a "let me preach my philosophy" thread. Keep that in the Lav. Thanks:nana2:
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Its funny, I am in almost the EXACT same situation. I was signed off for my CFI checkride a few months ago but didn't get to take it (for $$$ kinds of reasons). Right now I am also debating on whether to take an RJ course or go ahead and the get CFI. I'm graduating from college in December so, if possible I'd like to get the CFI before the end of the year.....not really sure what to do....I went to job fairs and they told me the same thing, either build more time or take a RJ course.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I was mostly joking with that - but I think guys on here are down on RJ courses simply because they associate them with PFJ. If that's PFJ, then any hour you fly for time building purposes above your CPL is PFJ too. It's still time building, just in a more structured/aircraft specific environment. I don't see what the big deal is. You guys bitch when a low time pilot makes the line and doesn't know what the fudge he's doing - now you bitch about a program designed to make them a better FO, and you bitch about that too. I just don't get it.
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When you get to the airlines, if that is your goal. You will then understand what everyone who is there right now is trying to say. Taking the RJ course does not make you a better FO. There's more to it then just taking a sim course. Real world experience beats taking a simulator course that you will get when you get to the airlines anyway.
 
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