FL180 Cessna 172 Skyhawk
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vheissu
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Not to be a jerk or anything.. but I've been following a few of your posts and some of the things I have read just come off as reckless. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me, but after reading you as a student pilot flying into in-advertant IMC, busting restricted areas, and flying in such marginal conditions with such low experience is worrying. I'm not too sure if flight into class A with no instrument rating, not on an IFR flight plan, and in a plane "with the stall horn blaring" shows good judgment, either.
sdfcvoh
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No offense taken whatsoever, I appreciate your comments. I do want to offer a couple of explanations, though. I don't do anything that takes me out of my comfort zone in the plane or that I feel is dangerous without a CFI. But that said, I will try new things that help me understand the plane's performance and handling characteristics within reason. A few times I've had some stuff catch my attention the first time I experienced them, but I think we've all been down that road. (The first really gusty landing. Something out of your control that forced you to deviate, etc.)
As far as the stall horn goes - it wasn't any different than slow flight with my examiner or CFI (just with a few extra thousand feet of safety to spare.) As far as Class A: I had flight following, a squawk code, and was in communication with center (aware of my intentions.)
As far as the stall horn goes - it wasn't any different than slow flight with my examiner or CFI (just with a few extra thousand feet of safety to spare.) As far as Class A: I had flight following, a squawk code, and was in communication with center (aware of my intentions.)
skidz
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I had flight followingand a spacesuit. Surprisingly, it didn't take too long. Maybe 1/2 hour from 9,500 (yeah yeah - let me have it jet-flying guys!)
Sucker was right on the edge, with the stall horn going off nonstop. I figured I had to do it once.
What kind of spacesuit you're talking about? Did you have oxygen on board?
skidz
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It's still out of reg though.
vheissu
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I am all for "raising the bar" while solo. In fact I think thats the only way to get comfort in the plane and improve your piloting skills. However this should be done within reason. Launching off into marginal conditions is just plain dangerous. And breaking FAR's is definitely not something to mess around with. Going along with the post above me, I'm hoping you were on oxygen?
sdfcvoh
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Next time make it 17,999 and avoid the grief.
Yeah - I bet the altimeter was wrong. This is better.:yeahthat:
MFT1Air
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So, I understand your explanation. Strictly hypothetically speaking, if a 30 year old accused rapist says his 16 year old victim was in a club with the permission of the club's owner and she was smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer, it's ok NOT accuse them of rape for having sex with this teenager, that's okay as well?
The analogy? None, I was simply ranting, but you were wrong, and got away with it. Admit that first, then offer an explanation. It would give many a perspective you realized you were wrong.
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Wow mad skillz to be able to bust many rules in the FARs
esa17
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I'll bet you didn't expect this kind of reaction. I myself am fairly indifferent, no one on this board hasn't done something in an airplane that didn't qualify as "reckless". Maybe some of us are "smart enough not to brag" and maybe others are too chicken-S to say anything after learning our lessons.
Kudos for having a pair but brush up on your ADM, find the correct balance and you'll be one heck of an aviator.
Kudos for having a pair but brush up on your ADM, find the correct balance and you'll be one heck of an aviator.
sdfcvoh
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... you need a bit more right rudder in there too
I just noticed that in the pic, too! Must be part of my previously labeled "Mad Skillz". :yup: I think he meant mad "Skills", though.
It was straight, but I had another pilot back at the airport tell me he found that at max altitude, instead of straight flight, a little bank would allow some more climb from the plane. I've got no idea if that would work, though. There is probably someone on here that could explain the science behind one or the other.
That makes me wonder - are there any test pilots on this site?
vheissu
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I'm not trying to come off that way.. in fact I normally wouldn't have said anything at all. We've all had our moments but I think we can all agree that climbing into Class A while not Instrument Rated, not on an IFR Plan, in an incapable aircraft just isn't safe or legal. I normally don't even post that much but something about me just felt like putting in my two cents on this. Flying into marginal conditions and finding yourself in IMC can be totally eliminated by knowing the weather and forecast weather along your route. And always know you can make that 180! Don't push on when you can see things are just getting worse ahead!