Low Time Interview
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Avalon781ML
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Honestly I think about 90% of people interviewing at PDT are low time... and they are getting hired... I would say review some of the posted threads and gouges and study. Just remember that if/when you interview that you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Good Luck!
akaFlyboy 4
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Ditto and who is PDT?
DAS
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PDT is Piedmont, and they took the first officer position away from their job listings on the website, so I guess they have enough pilots now.
Low Time interviews anyone? How did it go?
TheOneMarine
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I may be missing something but doesn't a 250 hr pilot get the same interview as a 1250 hr pilot? Just a simple observation.....
DAS
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I am curious to know how well low timers are doing on their interview and training.
A little over 60% are passing. Most of the new-hires require additional lessons.
The number of hours you have doesn't really mean much. Hours equates to experience.
If you can learn and digest large amounts of knowledge in a short period of time you'll do fine. If you can't it's not such a big deal, but if your instrument flying skills are weak thats what can really bring you down.
The number of hours you have doesn't really mean much. Hours equates to experience.
If you can learn and digest large amounts of knowledge in a short period of time you'll do fine. If you can't it's not such a big deal, but if your instrument flying skills are weak thats what can really bring you down.
88MPH
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So VERY roughly and generally speaking, if one were to burn up the MSFS, and portray a very learnable attitude, they've pretty much got it?
Remember, I said GENERALLY. I know many other factors play into it. I'm just getting at the fact of whether they KNOW a < 250hr guy isn't gonna interview well on procedures, mins, DPs, etc.
Remember, I said GENERALLY. I know many other factors play into it. I'm just getting at the fact of whether they KNOW a < 250hr guy isn't gonna interview well on procedures, mins, DPs, etc.
WAFlyBoy
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You're saying it's a fact that 250 hour pilots don't know [instrument] procedures, mins, and DPs well? Where are these pilots coming from? Are they instrument rated? Keep me away from the airlines that hire them!
88MPH
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I was thinking more along the lines of "what if" scenarios. I realize I didn't portray that thought very well. Simply, experiece makes a PIC, not hours. Heck, ex even makes an SIC.
A 1200hr SIC can obviously make more sound and sure decisions than could a wet CMEL.
Misunderstanding ... My bad.
taseal
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and a 2200hr SIC can know hell of alot more compared to a 1200hr SIC...
it'll just keep going, gotta start somewhere I guess
I'm sick of how so many people on this site are so obsessed with equating number of hours with the amount of experience. It isn't that simple..it's the quality of hours you got, and how you got them that matters...and in that regard, every single pilot is pretty much different.
Pilot A=750 hours: Got ratings and first 250 at a rural uncontrolled airport. Flew Grandaddy's plane for 500 hours single engine VFR using sectionals and VFR flight following in uncongested rural airspace.
Pilot B=500 hours: Got ratings and first 250 at a heavily congested flight school in DFW airspace, 250 dual given to foreign students with poor language skills, filed IFR on all his cross countries and with all his inst. students, shoots approaches, flies DPs and STARs every day.
I know and have done time buliding with 750 and 1000 hour pilots who are applying to regionals who don't know how to fly DPs and STARs and are barely current on instruments b/c they got their hours putting around VFR in daddy's plane or instructing at rural schools. I know 250 hour pilots who are current as hell, and because of where they trained and how they went about their training (i.e. long IFR x-countries and approaches in Class B and C airports all the time) they are 100x more competent to pass a regional sim check.
Who do you think is more qualified to fly for a regional--the 250-300 hour pilot who flew DPs and STARs in around DFW every day or a 500-750 hour pilot who got all his hours f-ing around VFR in a relative's 150. You can say all you want about weather, experience, etc. etc. etc. but the bottom line is it's more about what you did to get your hours.
Just giving an example of how sometimes hours don't necessarily always equate perfectly with competence or experience...it's just an arbitrary number that doesn't mean crap unless you look at what kind of hours they are.
I flew the other day with a guy with almost 500 hrs who had never flown a DP or STAR.
Pilot A=750 hours: Got ratings and first 250 at a rural uncontrolled airport. Flew Grandaddy's plane for 500 hours single engine VFR using sectionals and VFR flight following in uncongested rural airspace.
Pilot B=500 hours: Got ratings and first 250 at a heavily congested flight school in DFW airspace, 250 dual given to foreign students with poor language skills, filed IFR on all his cross countries and with all his inst. students, shoots approaches, flies DPs and STARs every day.
I know and have done time buliding with 750 and 1000 hour pilots who are applying to regionals who don't know how to fly DPs and STARs and are barely current on instruments b/c they got their hours putting around VFR in daddy's plane or instructing at rural schools. I know 250 hour pilots who are current as hell, and because of where they trained and how they went about their training (i.e. long IFR x-countries and approaches in Class B and C airports all the time) they are 100x more competent to pass a regional sim check.
Who do you think is more qualified to fly for a regional--the 250-300 hour pilot who flew DPs and STARs in around DFW every day or a 500-750 hour pilot who got all his hours f-ing around VFR in a relative's 150. You can say all you want about weather, experience, etc. etc. etc. but the bottom line is it's more about what you did to get your hours.
Just giving an example of how sometimes hours don't necessarily always equate perfectly with competence or experience...it's just an arbitrary number that doesn't mean crap unless you look at what kind of hours they are.
I flew the other day with a guy with almost 500 hrs who had never flown a DP or STAR.
PS> I also think there is some bitterness on this site about low-timers, because a lot of guys were unfortunate enough to have finished their ratings around 9-11, and since THEY had 1200 hours when they were hired, they get a little pissed when they hear about guys getting hired with 350-500 hours.
I was in medical school for a while, and during my first year there were some huge changes going on in the medical community about residency training...for the last 100 years residents were expected to work 120 hours a week, not for any particular reason--just because all the older docs had to do it, so they expected the new guys to do it. It was a rite of passage similar to hazing at a frat. Finally someone realized there was no significant increase in competence resulting from working 120 as opposed to 80 hours per week, and they passed some regs prohibiting people from working that much.
It's not a precise comparison, but I think there is definitely a "rite of passage" component to the whole "you can't fly an RJ without instructing for 500 hours first" thing.
I was in medical school for a while, and during my first year there were some huge changes going on in the medical community about residency training...for the last 100 years residents were expected to work 120 hours a week, not for any particular reason--just because all the older docs had to do it, so they expected the new guys to do it. It was a rite of passage similar to hazing at a frat. Finally someone realized there was no significant increase in competence resulting from working 120 as opposed to 80 hours per week, and they passed some regs prohibiting people from working that much.
It's not a precise comparison, but I think there is definitely a "rite of passage" component to the whole "you can't fly an RJ without instructing for 500 hours first" thing.
DAS
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They are flying, rather you like or not!