Video of Drug Smugglers Shot down

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Murdoughnut said:
I see what you mean, but then again, I'd rather Five0 show them his new toy then they t-bone my family at the next intersection. But then again, I'm a strong supporter of police brutality :buck:

Here's another situation to ponder... a/c crosses into the Washington ADIZ unauthorized on a direct course for the mall. F-16s catch up to him and he immediately hits the deck, playing Red Bull Air Races with large building and towers, obviously evading. He's unarmed - but do you still wait until he lands before intervening? I would hope the fast movers would turn him into metal confetti.
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I think it should be obvious from everything I have already stated, that is incoming, not outgoing. Incoming is military action with all that implies, outgoing is police action.
 
no way!!! remember they were not in the united states which means they do not have the same rights as if they were here in the united states. the whole 2.5 miles til frontier would have changed the game a little bit. i honestly have no problem with shooting them down. i wish we would show that on television so people will think twice about breaking the law. actions speak louder than words sometimes.
 
amorris311 said:
no way!!! remember they were not in the united states which means they do not have the same rights as if they were here in the united states. the whole 2.5 miles til frontier would have changed the game a little bit. i honestly have no problem with shooting them down. i wish we would show that on television so people will think twice about breaking the law. actions speak louder than words sometimes.
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So, one of the greatest things about our country, the right to a fair trial, should only apply to Americans, and even then, only when they are in the US?? :drool:
 
IMHO, the day someone decides to be a drug pusher, they give up all or their rights - they are a cancer on our society so why should we give them the honor to a trial? They're criminals that are only worried about money, money, money. They could care less that little Sally got cranked up with some not so great folks and then goes off and t-bones a family. It's like that incident at the border last year. There are 2 border agents in jail right now while Mr. drug pusher is bouncing around with a bum leg, claiming his rights were violated. What rights!? Bottom line, if you're going to get involved in the "dope game" you have sealed you fate. Take it for what its worth, just an opinion
 
autiger10 said:
IMHO, the day someone decides to be a drug pusher, they give up all or their rights - they are a cancer on our society so why should we give them the honor to a trial? Their criminals that are only worried about money, money, money. They could care less that little Sally got cranked up with some not so great folks and then goes off and t-bones a family. It's like that incident at the border last year. There are 2 border agents in jail right now while Mr. drug pusher is bouncing around with a bum leg, claiming his rights were violated. What rights!? Bottom line, if you're going to get involved in the "dope game" you have sealed you fate. Take it for what its worth, just an opinion
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I agree, only problem is, without a trial, they are not yet drug pushers, they are SUSPECTED drug pushers.
 
That is true, but common sense says that if I were flying NAP of earth and not making any effort to signal that I would do as instructed, I've got something to hide and Mr. Escobar probably wouldn't be too happy if I just gave in
 
Okay, here it is... Chewy loves to make fun of me for it but here is the 100 quote post again. :)

MikeBurbank said:
At the same time that applies to you officer. No disrespect but you volunteer for your job. You cant ask that everyone that adds to your danger be killed.
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I understand fully. By no means am I asking for someone who adds to my danger be killed, but when they are I am not going to be crying.

darrenf said:
Just arrest the suspects at their destination.
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So when they are brought back the local drug lords who basically run the country, especially the courts can simply look the other way for them to do it again?

darrenf said:
And keep in mind drugs are a police concern, not a military concern. I am just glad our military is not used for law enforcement domestically.
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Umm no. The US Coast Guard is a branch of the military. They are very much responsible for dealing with drug runners both in the air and on the water along our coast. They have specific branches and boats dedicated to drug smugglers and catching them.

BajtheJino said:
Let us not be so naive to think that a plane, flying at tree top level going below radar level in the remote jungles of Columbia is a happy family out for a photo shoot.
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That was the funniest thing I have seen all day.

Murdoughnut said:
I'm with FiveO on this one...

Good guys: 1
Bad guys: 0

I'm sure FiveO knows if someone sees him approaching and tears off, that they're probably not just going out for ice cream.
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Exactly. Obviously something is up.

darrenf said:
Still does not justify FiveO killing them.
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Hey, where did I say something about meeeee killing them? :)

Murdoughnut said:
I see what you mean, but then again, I'd rather Five0 show them his new toy then they t-bone my family at the next intersection.
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And I gladly would.

I will argue this all day long. I have to go for a few but I will gladly continue this all night long.
 
FiveO said:
So when they are brought back the local drug lords who basically run the country, especially the courts can simply look the other way for them to do it again?
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That is what diplomacy is for, to try to get other countries to adhere to our wishes.

FiveO said:
Umm no. The US Coast Guard is a branch of the military. They are very much responsible for dealing with drug runners both in the air and on the water along our coast. They have specific branches and boats dedicated to drug smugglers and catching them.
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That is why I stated incoming trouble is a military issue.
 
BajtheJino said:
Yeah, you might be too young to recall Reagan declaring a WAR ON DRUGS back in the day. Let us not be so naive to think that a plane, flying at tree top level going below radar level in the remote jungles of Columbia is a happy family out for a photo shoot. Its obvious from the audio that the plane has been interdicted and they still won't turn back. Why wouldnt you just wait for them to land? THEYRE GOING OVER THE BORDER! Take a look at the countries surrounding Columbia...hmmm.

My only question to you would be this: Have you ever known someone that was addicted to cocaine? I'm not talking about some frat boys buying too much baking powder on Saturday night. I'm talking true drug addiction. It destroys them, their families and their communities. Summary execution. Sure, why not.

You believe in wealth redistribution too, don't you...And that corporate CEO's are evil people?
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um... Ya Im 30. I remember reagan.

First the issues are separate the legalization of drugs and planes coming into the country are separate issues.

Next I dont think you understand what our position towards a country becomes when they freely allow their people to come here and make trouble. We dont like those governments and usually help them get ousted.

Like he said planes flying here at tree top level are looking for trouble. They may only be suspected belly dancers it doesnt matter you cannot violate a nations borders without permission. Why you think thats ok for some people and not others is beyond me. More important what if your ask first fire later is wrong once. What is your answer then? "Oh I thought they were just drug traffickers".

There is no negotiating national borders. Border - as in line - not grey area... You dont ccome here.

You dont let people come in your house do you?

And Mr. Five0 - use your toy on em!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Murdoughnut said:
I'm with FiveO on this one...

Good guys: 1
Bad guys: 0

I'm sure FiveO knows if someone sees him approaching and tears off, that they're probably not just going out for ice cream.
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OK then we might as well arm the police helicopters with missiles, and blow up any car running from the law. Same argument.
 
I'm living through hell right now with a loved one addicted to junk. I hope the smuggler died the most painful and terrifying death possible. No sympathy what so ever.

Yes, ultimately it is the users decision to take the drug, however, that decision wouldn't be there if it wasn't for these pushers bringing this garbage onto our streets.

Hope he is burning in hell for all the would be lives he would have ruined if his load made it to Miami or any other port of entry for this crap.
 
darrenf said:
If you're into snuff films, and governmental abuses of power. :banghead:
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Abuses of power? Well, I would appreciate your proving that comment . . . or caveat your statement with something to the effect that it's your own personal opinion.

You witnessed a short video of a plane being shot down. My opinion is that you have no clue about the totality of the situation as it relates to attempts to communincate, rules of engagement or any of the other either tangible or intangibles factors that went into the decision to shoot the airplane down.

Nor am I one to, based upon your comment, assume you to be some Monday morning armchaired quarterbacking liberal either.

You called it like you saw it. Your opinion. Others saw it differently, and theirs are their personal opinions as well. Fact is, the plane was shot down. The reason may or may not have been justified.

My thoughts? Pilots flying in the Washington DC ADIZ know the appropriate rules for flying in that area. Violate those rules, and they are subjected to the same course of action as perhaps relates to the pilot of this aircraft in Columbia. . .innocents on board or not.

It's the PIC's decision on how to react to a situation such as this. . .drug smuggler or not.
 
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