SkyWest being sued...?

aloft

aloft

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Rumot has it that the ALPA organizing committee at SkyWest has filed a federal lawsuit against SkyWest for obstructing the union petition drive....film at eleven.
 
Rock on. . .good luck chaps, but I have little faith in our present judicial system when it comes to large corporations and labor groups.
 
Here's a letter from SkyWest's organizing committee outlining the details of the lawsuit. I'm told they were granted a restraining order against the company today pertaining to all or most of the letter's bullet points.

A little bit of trivia: Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer's son is hearing the case.
 
aloft said:
Here's a letter from SkyWest's organizing committee outlining the details of the lawsuit. I'm told they were granted a restraining order against the company today pertaining to all or most of the letter's bullet points.

A little bit of trivia: Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer's son is hearing the case.
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For the ignorant (me), I don't understand why SKW would HAVE to allow union marketing on it's territory just because they have a pilots association? An association is not a union right, or SKW would be unionized and it's not (yet). Just trying to understand :)
 
TheWife said:
For the ignorant (me), I don't understand why SKW would HAVE to allow union marketing on it's territory just because they have a pilots association? An association is not a union right, or SKW would be unionized and it's not (yet). Just trying to understand :)
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The railway labor act says that a company cannot interfere with it's employees trying to organize, and that's the organizing commitee's position.

Now the only concern is how nasty is the relationship going to get if the pilots actually vote for alpa representation. Apparenty the organizing commitee has chosen to complain and sue instead of improvising. I'd much rather they fight for important things rather than the right to put pamphlets in the crew rooms (which they are doing anyways).........
 
launchpad said:
The railway labor act says that a company cannot interfere with it's employees trying to organize, and that's the organizing commitee's position.

Now the only concern is how nasty is the relationship going to get if the pilots actually vote for alpa representation. Apparenty the organizing commitee has chosen to complain and sue instead of improvising. I'd much rather they fight for important things rather than the right to put pamphlets in the crew rooms (which they are doing anyways).........
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Ahh...how are they going to fight for anything before they're on property boss man?
 
jtrain609 said:
Ahh...how are they going to fight for anything before they're on property boss man?
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I guess fight was the wrong word, but they could use all this energy and money into spreading their word *near* crew lounges, etc. etc. They also have everyone's home address, etc. etc. I just don't think that this issue needs to be as big as they're making it out to be.....Like I said, I've seen pamphlets and authorization cards in the crew lounges and even in my mailbox at work.........all of this litigation and other crap is only going to sour a relationship before it begins...and it's not going to be a sweet relationship in the first place......
 
The "OC" is scoring major negative points with me by requesting access to pilot V-files and ability to use internal email. I don't want to get internal email from them, nor do I want them to have access to my V-file.
 
"The "OC" is scoring major negative points with me by requesting access to pilot V-files"

Then vote no when the time comes. If that's all it takes to score negative points with you, then you'd be a no voter anyhow.

The OC should have the right to access V files if the company does. How much of an intrusion into your life is a V file insert? It's harmless, unless you want to stifle ALPA's attempts to educate and union free speech. Personal emails are another matter but V files should be a no-brainer.
 
jtrain609 said:
Ahh...how are they going to fight for anything before they're on property boss man?
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Here's the problem with that: Union representation is an issue between management and labor. ALPA shouldn't be fighting to be on Skywest's property. It is for the Skywest pilots to decide whether or not they want ALPA to represent them. It is not ALPA's place impose representation on the Skywest pilots, by forcing their way onto the property.

The proper thing to do is to provide information for those that want it, but otherwise to stay out of the dispute until they receive the required amount of cards back from the pilot group. If and when that happens, then they can proceed with an election. If they do not, then that is pretty good indication that ALPA is not wanted. And why go somewhere you are not wanted?
 
skydog said:
Here's the problem with that: Union representation is an issue between management and labor. ALPA shouldn't be fighting to be on Skywest's property. It is for the Skywest pilots to decide whether or not they want ALPA to represent them. It is not ALPA's place impose representation on the Skywest pilots, by forcing their way onto the property.

The proper thing to do is to provide information for those that want it, but otherwise to stay out of the dispute until they receive the required amount of cards back from the pilot group. If and when that happens, then they can proceed with an election. If they do not, then that is pretty good indication that ALPA is not wanted. And why go somewhere you are not wanted?
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You must have some serious problems with billboards on the side of the highway...

How do you expect them to target only those that want to know? Ask everybody? Wait, now you've just targeted everybody!!!

The larger issue here is that the company is doing something illegal, and you guys are saying that it's A-OK for them to do so. See the problem?
 
TheWife said:
For the ignorant (me), I don't understand why SKW would HAVE to allow union marketing on it's territory just because they have a pilots association? An association is not a union right, or SKW would be unionized and it's not (yet). Just trying to understand :)
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An employer cannot impose greater restrictions on union solicitations than it imposes on solicitations for any other organization. The issue here is that Skywest apparently has allowed one association great freedom of access to Skywest employees, but is attempting to deny the same access to the organizing committee. That is illegal.

And anyone who gets pissed off just because the organizing committee is trying to provide information needs a serious attitude adjustment. The employer is not your friend. The information the employer provides to you is highly biased and likely false. You should welcome some information from the other side to balance the information you are receiving.

Of course, if you prefer to be ignorant, I guess you have that right.
 
Minnesota_Flyer said:
An employer cannot impose greater restrictions on union solicitations than it imposes on solicitations for any other organization. The issue here is that Skywest apparently has allowed one association great freedom of access to Skywest employees, but is attempting to deny the same access to the organizing committee. That is illegal.

And anyone who gets pissed off just because the organizing committee is trying to provide information needs a serious attitude adjustment. The employer is not your friend. The information the employer provides to you is highly biased and likely false. You should welcome some information from the other side to balance the information you are receiving.

Of course, if you prefer to be ignorant, I guess you have that right.
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FIGHT THE MAN!
 
I like having labor attorneys on the website, it's like having Cat-III autoland.
 
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