Spirit back in chapter 11
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WacoFan
Bigly
I hate when that happens.
Cruise
Well-Known Member
100% agree on some of the customer service pitfalls. That's part of the problem when almost every forward-facing "employee" is actually a subcontractor and their performance metrics don't necessarily align with what's best for the operation as a whole. Just the other day in MCO a woman on my flight forgot an item up at the gate. We were already a few minutes late and the gate wouldn't let her off the jet to go look around saying she'd be deplaned if she got off the jet. Well I went to the back of the jet and asked her what she forgot and where it might've been left and I went up to the boarding area to get said item. Told the gate agent we were already late and we're in the business of customer service, too bad if they want to close the door. Unfortunately I couldn't find her item where she said she was sitting so either someone had already snagged it or that wasn't where she lost the item. BUT, I tried to make it right for the customer...you know, the people keeping the lights on!!
That was a typo. Fired for admin reasons.
A300Capt
Freight Dawg
It was like the Starship Enterprise. We called it the Atari Ferrari..
Sad sight.
34 Spirit planes stored here at MZJ.
60 Spirit planes stored at GYR, and 2 Spirit planes stored at TUS. There were 4 at P08, but they were moved to GYR and part of the group there.
I’ll have to check IGM when I get up to there to see if any ended up there.
34 Spirit planes stored here at MZJ.
60 Spirit planes stored at GYR, and 2 Spirit planes stored at TUS. There were 4 at P08, but they were moved to GYR and part of the group there.
I’ll have to check IGM when I get up to there to see if any ended up there.
Dont know if you can use this site Airbus Hamburg Finkenwerder News to see about where planes are stored. It gives the status of every Airbus plane thats been delivered to Spirit if you're interested in where they are. It seems like the majority are at GYR and MZJ being mainly 320NEOs a P08 being the 319s. the only other place that seems to have parked planes is DTW, nothing in IGM that i see from skimming the planes.
The Spirit fleet now seems to consist mostly of 320ceos and 321ceos, the only neos that are in service are the 321neos delivered within the last year. the majority of all of the neos delivered between 2016 and 2024 have been parked.
The Spirit fleet now seems to consist mostly of 320ceos and 321ceos, the only neos that are in service are the 321neos delivered within the last year. the majority of all of the neos delivered between 2016 and 2024 have been parked.
Yup.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
The pilot unit costs are lower on the 321s, so it makes a certain sense to keep those airplanes. I would surmise (I admit, I no longer pay attention) that the 320Neos are mostly all down for engine work, still.
Spirit to sell 20 jets, recalls 500 FAs from furlough.
These 20 jets, are they from the 100 already sitting in storage here in AZ, or are the in addition to those?
www.cnbc.com
These 20 jets, are they from the 100 already sitting in storage here in AZ, or are the in addition to those?
Spirit Airlines sells more planes, calls back 500 flight attendants from furlough ahead of spring break
Spirit Airlines said it sold another 20 planes and is calling back 500 flight attendants from furlough.
www.cnbc.com
BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
It says the aircraft in question are not in service. So from storage, mostly. But who knows from where…Spirit to sell 20 jets, recalls 500 FAs from furlough.
These 20 jets, are they from the 100 already sitting in storage here in AZ, or are the in addition to those?
Spirit Airlines sells more planes, calls back 500 flight attendants from furlough ahead of spring break
Spirit Airlines said it sold another 20 planes and is calling back 500 flight attendants from furlough.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Bendo, who broke it, is still being entrusted to fix it.Spirit to sell 20 jets, recalls 500 FAs from furlough.
These 20 jets, are they from the 100 already sitting in storage here in AZ, or are the in addition to those?
Spirit Airlines sells more planes, calls back 500 flight attendants from furlough ahead of spring break
Spirit Airlines said it sold another 20 planes and is calling back 500 flight attendants from furlough.
Great.
Cruise
Well-Known Member
How he still has his job is mind-blowing to me.
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
Get got a nearly 5m bonus last year if I remember correctly.
I thought this was interesting
Spirit 320neos are worth more parted out than whole so even though 950NK and 959NK are less than 3 years old they are being scrapped for parts rather than being sold or leased out and placed into service with another airline.
simpleflying.com
xfw-spotter.blogspot.com
xfw-spotter.blogspot.com
Spirit 320neos are worth more parted out than whole so even though 950NK and 959NK are less than 3 years old they are being scrapped for parts rather than being sold or leased out and placed into service with another airline.
3-Year-Old Spirit Airbus A320neos Are Already Being Scrapped
Two Spirit Airlines Airbus A320neos, just four and three and a half years old, are being dismantled in Goodyear, Arizona.
simpleflying.com
Airbus Hamburg Finkenwerder News
The blog shows Airbus flights and deliveries A318, A319, A320, A321, A380 in XFW, TLS, TSN and BFM, also history Data for each MSN. XFW Spotter
xfw-spotter.blogspot.com
Airbus Hamburg Finkenwerder News
The blog shows Airbus flights and deliveries A318, A319, A320, A321, A380 in XFW, TLS, TSN and BFM, also history Data for each MSN. XFW Spotter
xfw-spotter.blogspot.com
knot4u
Repeat Offender
With the current problems with GTFs they're hard to get. Supply vs demand has made the engines way more valuable than the airframes. I suspect it'll eventually settle down, but right now there's a scarcity of engines and buying an entire airplane just for the engines makes financial sense. I'd imagine all of the other usable parts will be sold as well, but the engines are the profit center currently.I thought this was interesting
Spirit 320neos are worth more parted out than whole so even though 950NK and 959NK are less than 3 years old they are being scrapped for parts rather than being sold or leased out and placed into service with another airline.
3-Year-Old Spirit Airbus A320neos Are Already Being Scrapped
Two Spirit Airlines Airbus A320neos, just four and three and a half years old, are being dismantled in Goodyear, Arizona.
Airbus Hamburg Finkenwerder News
The blog shows Airbus flights and deliveries A318, A319, A320, A321, A380 in XFW, TLS, TSN and BFM, also history Data for each MSN. XFW Spotter
Airbus Hamburg Finkenwerder News
The blog shows Airbus flights and deliveries A318, A319, A320, A321, A380 in XFW, TLS, TSN and BFM, also history Data for each MSN. XFW Spotter
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Hopefully this isn't a 'breaking them all the way up' proposition, as someday the engine woes will be worked out, and that airplane does burn a lot less than its IAE (or CFMI) equivalents.
sighs
Sad to see it, those airplanes do have a lot of life left on them.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Why is this? Is Airbus and its parts suppliers not able to keep up with demand?
knot4u
Repeat Offender
When the engines go into the shop for scheduled inspections or repairs the turnaround time is horrendous for a number of reasons. What a company would normally do is rent an engine and install it to keep the airplane flying but there's no rental engines available either. Back when strictly doing engine changes paid for by the manufacturers engine program was my bread and butter it was very rare to remove an engine and just wait for it to come back. We would almost always install a loaner, that loaner did not normally come from the manufacturer, there are companies out there that own engines and no airplanes. They exist on just renting engines. My experience is all corporate/private/business jets but I'd imagine the same business model is used in the airline world. If a rental company looks at the bottom line and thinks they can profit from renting engines that are as hard to get as hens teeth and they have the capital to do it why not buy fairly new jets from a sinking company and remove the engines and sell the carcass to the highest bidder? As I said before I think long term the engine issues will get worked out but currently if you have a couple of those engines available for rent you can ask a very high premium, you'd be printing money short term and have the asset when the market settles down.
DropTank
Well-Known Member
Certain consumable parts are tin short supply
Specifically, the Pratt geared fan engines are still a year or 2 behind.