Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
MUH PRODUCTIVITY YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS OPERATION BRO
UPS MD-11 crash at SDF
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WacoFan
Bigly
Been thinking about the potential loss of lift for FedEx and UPS, particularly with peak being here. I offer a potential solution:
I know @mikecweb loves the MD-11 and previously the Lears. And has an aversion to toilets in the cockpit like 767's. This might prove fun for him. And while I know @Boris Badenov doesn't fly the -11 I think operating one of these 90'ish year old machines in all weather, over all terrain doing night freight might scratch the "death wish" itch he hasn't scratched since the MU-2. Y'all take it to your companies and let me know - I know where all of them are and we can get them online quickly.
I know @mikecweb loves the MD-11 and previously the Lears. And has an aversion to toilets in the cockpit like 767's. This might prove fun for him. And while I know @Boris Badenov doesn't fly the -11 I think operating one of these 90'ish year old machines in all weather, over all terrain doing night freight might scratch the "death wish" itch he hasn't scratched since the MU-2. Y'all take it to your companies and let me know - I know where all of them are and we can get them online quickly.
Cory Trevor
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There’s at least one person I heard at OO talking about 117 killing the good standups
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Which is crap, since they still managed to build plenty of 'good' ones (note: there are no good split-duty rotations) and some that paid well but were not good ones. The former: SFO-BUR-SFO. Easy. Or MSP-some cruddy outstation-MSP, which I only ever flew for premium.
The latter: SFO-YEG-SFO (!!!!!!), which paid on the goddamned block and had minimum ground time up in Nisku or wherever that little city is called with customs both directions.
BlueMoon
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Yep, most of them don’t even know how 117 works and have a skewed view of how our schedules actually work.
I flew with a SIG rep. He was convinced 117 would end “week on week off schedules”. (It doesn’t/wouldn’t”).
He also thought most pilots get weekend layovers in their home city (they don’t). And that would be ruined if we had 117.
He was a local who avoided night flying, because….get this….. it was too tiring.
Cory Trevor
Well-Known Member
ORD-MIA is the “good” one that I heard was taken away from 117. Also it stopped people from stacking high paying ones because of scheduled rest requirements. Anyway, still stupid
HeyEng
Well-Known Member
I know I am a bit late to the discussion, but I noticed his "uniform" also includes a tie that says "CAPTAIN STEEEEVE" and a lanyard with at least "Captain" on it. Holy • balls man, what an absolute tool bag.
HeyEng
Well-Known Member
Speaking of the KC-10, there were several that had been de-mil'd and were up for auction. I wonder what the status of that is? Talk about a bad deal if you were the winning bidder on jets that may never be allowed to fly again.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
That sounds positively ungood to me and about as fun as going to Edmonton and back out of SFO.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I looked this up. Apparently he has some terminally sick grandkids (as in more than one), so he wears that red lanyard for them. Not sure how that logic connects with a “fly safe” message.
View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5zWFTwnVvFg
Rosstafari
Hello, this is Orlando mayor Buddy Dyer
Having worked for both… it’s a push.
arkflyr
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ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
Oooof. That is one of the most horrific series of images I have seen.
WacoFan
Bigly
If you look at it a certain way it looks like #1could have hit #2 - or am I looking at it wrong?
And “so fast”, wasn’t fast enough, like I inquired about in the first pages of this thread. UPS should’ve been concerned enough to not keep their MD planes flying for days (and perhaps longer), when they had a separated engine sitting in the infield grass, far before the wreckage of their plane off the departure end of the runway, all right there at their home base. Should’ve been enough concern for the unknown to at least temporarily not fly them, until the Boeing decision did it for them.
BlueMoon
Well-Known Member
I think it’s tough to judge depth in those still images. It could have for sure, but I think it would have caused massive visual damage if #1 struck the tail mounted motor, which I don’t see in the later image contained in the prelim report
If anything, #2 appears to be compressor stalling from possibly the flame ingestion, if not FOD ingestion. In the KC-10 series, there’s about 15+ feet or so of distance from the inlet lip of the #2 intake to the front end of the actual engine itself, so any disturbed air entering the inlet that could potentially cause compressor stalling, generally straightens out by the time it reaches the actual engine. But I can’t imagine that this amount of disturbed air, likely laced with FOD from the departed engine, didn’t do some degree of interruption at best, or damage at worst, that there wasn’t some degree of thrust loss at this critical phase of flight. Interestingly, the #2 engine is normally the least susceptible to compressor stalls, just due to its inlet design, but the most susceptible to FOD due to its location, on these jets.