Any ‘Normal’ NAT crossings?

Same! LOL!

But never automatically! Why? I don’t know. CSC boss-man tells me to bitch at you when you do it without being prompted first.

Hamburger Method: “So this went well… [bring down furious anger]…and these other things went well”

We were told that NOT setting it to 300s when you need it just generates that message, but setting it to 300s when you don't need it (which is like 2 FIRs in the whole world) breaks their system. Who knows. I just do what they say. Like sending handshake position reports at a fir boundary... or not.


His name is Jimmy.

But nobody (myself included) can ever remember why.
 
Not NATS... but across the other ocean stuff is normally pretty chill... normally.

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So, ten left or right?

Then the other FO, who was flying, wanted me to ask for a direct when we weren't radar contact.

Just the other day I was told that some people are getting busted after coasting out in WATRS for cutting the corner. Even though you've been handed off to HF, the radar coverage is still enough to "see you" and generating violations automatically.
 
So, ten left or right?



Just the other day I was told that some people are getting busted after coasting out in WATRS for cutting the corner. Even though you've been handed off to HF, the radar coverage is still enough to "see you" and generating violations automatically.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised people are doing things like that.
 
So, ten left or right?



Just the other day I was told that some people are getting busted after coasting out in WATRS for cutting the corner. Even though you've been handed off to HF, the radar coverage is still enough to "see you" and generating violations automatically.
THats like covering your eyes and saying "I can do what I want because no one can see me!"
 
I can't really think of one that *didn't* go basically to plan. Every once in a while there's some problem with the CPDLC, but it always gets ironed out before we have to do the dreaded "Monitor HF". We also tend to be doing random routes when there aren't a lot of other sky-busses/trucks out there to mess everything up for us, so maybe that's the difference.
 
Most of mine have been pretty straightforward. The occasional CPDLC issue but I learned to do it old school and reverting to voice always fixed everything. A few reroutes and the need for wx deviations both with and without CPDLC all went smoothly. The big problems that stood out were mainly due to flying old junky airplanes. Although one time for some reason we couldn't get SELCAL to work with Santa Maria and we had to maintain HF listening watch. That was brutal. Luckily it worked fine with New York.
 
So, ten left or right?



Just the other day I was told that some people are getting busted after coasting out in WATRS for cutting the corner. Even though you've been handed off to HF, the radar coverage is still enough to "see you" and generating violations automatically.
Could be ADS-B covered. Or ADS-C sending out where you are.
 
Could be ADS-B covered. Or ADS-C sending out where you are.

That was my thought as well, but surprising to think that seasoned aviators in ORCA (formerly Class II) don't think about the aircraft position reporting systems. This isn't a student pilot "forgetting" about the third leg of the triangle in the their long-cross country.
 
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Well the crossing was great until this happened 🤣 . We are alive and well, it could’ve been worse.
 
Not this time. This was our 605.
Too bad for your company that it's the left windshield, if it was the right windshield Bombardier has a procedure to just cover it in aluminum tape (a very specific aluminum tape and after some inspections) and ferry fly it back home to get the windshield replaced. I only know of this because I rolled into the hangar one day and there sat a Challenger with one of them taped over. Changing a windshield on a Challenger is challenging (see what I did there?), doing it overseas is going to just multiply the headache tenfold. We once had a G550 parked out somewhere in Hawaii and a taxiing G650 decided to assert its dominance by crashing its winglet into our winglet. You used to be able to get a disposition to fly a G-IV with one winglet removed but those days are gone. This quickly became a quagmire for everyone involved including Gulfstream, there's no hangars, ramp space is barely existent and everything required to repair both jets (including a team of technicians for each airplane) had to be shipped by air. The insurance companies weren't happy, the loan holders weren't happy, the charter companies weren't happy, the charter customers were very unhappy. But if you endeavor to persevere amazing things can be accomplished and eventually everything was repaired and ended up back where it was supposed to be. I hope you were headed home rather than abroad. I should also say that windshields on some of these "older" jets are getting very expensive and hard to buy. I'm not sure if the 605 group is experiencing the supply chain issues the 550 group is but Gulfstream won't even allow you to order a G-IV-G550 windshield unless it's shattered or you provide proof of troubleshooting on the heating elements and I think they cost about $100,000/per windshield, it seems as if the black and white definition regarding damage/wear/age are now grey and they'll decide if you need a new windshield.
 
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You used to be able to get a disposition to fly a G-IV with one winglet removed but those days are gone.

I wonder why. It's a pretty simple procedure to fly with a single winglet on the Airbus and CRJ series. I'd imagine Boeing is similar.
 
Too bad for your company that it's the left windshield, if it was the right windshield Bombardier has a procedure to just cover it in aluminum tape (a very specific aluminum tape and after some inspections) and ferry fly it back home to get the windshield replaced. I only know of this because I rolled into the hangar one day and there sat a Challenger with one of them taped over. Changing a windshield on a Challenger is challenging (see what I did there?), doing it overseas is going to just multiply the headache tenfold. We once had a G550 parked out somewhere in Hawaii and a taxiing G650 decided to assert its dominance by crashing its winglet into our winglet. You used to be able to get a disposition to fly a G-IV with one winglet removed but those days are gone. This quickly became a quagmire for everyone involved including Gulfstream, there's no hangars, ramp space is barely existent and everything required to repair both jets (including a team of technicians for each airplane) had to be shipped by air. The insurance companies weren't happy, the loan holders weren't happy, the charter companies weren't happy, the charter customers were very unhappy. But if you endeavor to persevere amazing things can be accomplished and eventually everything was repaired and ended up back where it was supposed to be. I hope you were headed home rather than abroad. I should also say that windshields on some of these "older" jets are getting very expensive and hard to buy. I'm not sure if the 605 group is experiencing the supply chain issues the 550 group is but Gulfstream won't even allow you to order a G-IV-G550 windshield unless it's shattered or you provide proof of troubleshooting on the heating elements and I think they cost about $100,000/per windshield, it seems as if the black and white definition regarding damage/wear/age are now grey and they'll decide if you need a new windshield.
It was a brand new window installed within the last few months. We are wondering if it had a manufacturing defect.
 
It was a brand new window installed within the last few months. We are wondering if it had a manufacturing defect.
Might've been an installation issue. There's a very specific torque sequence for the bolts that hold that thing in, despite how rugged those things are they're also pretty fragile. Changing a windshield on a Gulfstream is easy compared to a Challenger, if you're stuck somewhere with your airplane and you stay to oversee the repair rather than just flying home you'll learn a lot. I have no idea where you are but if you're stuck there just try to enjoy it, you'll be there for a few days.
 
I wonder why. It's a pretty simple procedure to fly with a single winglet on the Airbus and CRJ series. I'd imagine Boeing is similar.
I don't know. If you ask Gulfstream for any disposition they won't even consider it until you wire them $1500 and that's just to get the party started. Gulfstream in 2025 is not what I grew up with. I can recall having an issue with a G-III (belongs to a very recognizable person) a few years ago and I might as well have called some random repair station, they had to go find to find someone who had any idea what I was talking about and then they also want to start charging customers for calling, I'm sure it's all free for a G700 owner but they've been building airplanes for 60 years and many of their older complicated models are still flying. Don't get me wrong, I still think the Gulfstream is the benchmark, I just wish they treated their customers better, I've worked at three different companies that operated at least 20 Gulfstreams each.
 
Might've been an installation issue. There's a very specific torque sequence for the bolts that hold that thing in, despite how rugged those things are they're also pretty fragile. Changing a windshield on a Gulfstream is easy compared to a Challenger, if you're stuck somewhere with your airplane and you stay to oversee the repair rather than just flying home you'll learn a lot. I have no idea where you are but if you're stuck there just try to enjoy it, you'll be there for a few days.
I was lucky enough to go home. Sounds like the plane will be stuck there for quite a while.
 
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