B-Jet crash in San Diego

[Malko]

Small plane crashes into San Diego neighborhood, setting homes and vehicles on fire

A small plane crashed into a San Diego neighborhood, setting about 15 homes on fire as well as vehicles, and forcing evacuations along several blocks.

apnews.com

 

[ahw01]

0345, fog. Hmm

 

[Malko]

0345, fog. Hmm

IF I recall there was a similar crash at Montgomery Field a couple years back when they flew into the hills.....

 

[ahw01]

IF I recall there was a similar crash at Montgomery Field a couple years back when they flew into the hills.....

Accident Cessna S550 Citation S/II N666DS, Thursday 22 May 2025

A Cessna 550 Citation II, N666DS, was destroyed when it crashed while on approach to San Diego-Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport (MYF/KMYF), California. Various vehicles and 15 homes wer...

asn.flightsafety.org

 

[Malko]

Accident Cessna S550 Citation S/II N666DS, Thursday 22 May 2025

A Cessna 550 Citation II, N666DS, was destroyed when it crashed while on approach to San Diego-Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport (MYF/KMYF), California. Various vehicles and 15 homes wer...

asn.flightsafety.org

was just looking that up:

N666DS Flight Tracking and History 22-May-2025 (KAAO-KMYF) - FlightAware

Track N666DS flight from Colonel James Jabara to Montgomery-Gibbs Exec

www.flightaware.com

 

[Murdoughnut]

N666DS if Flight Aware is to be believed.

[Someone beat me to it as I was typing]

 

[Wardogg]

IF I recall there was a similar crash at Montgomery Field a couple years back when they flew into the hills.....

Is this the same field as the medical lear that was on the sketchy "vfr" circling approach? Which wasn't auth at night.

 

[Malko]

Is this the same field as the medical lear that was on the sketchy "vfr" circling approach? Which wasn't auth at night.

I believe it is....That's the flight I was referring to at least.

 

[Murdoughnut]

I believe it is....That's the flight I was referring to at least.

Gotta imagine the calls to close it at night will be strong.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

0345, fog. Hmm

What could go wrong?

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

I know people hate DM, but there’s 25 pictures in this article, including what is claimed to be police rescuing puppy huskies from the crash area…

Up to TEN feared dead after private plane crashes into San Diego

A Cessna 550 plane crashed in San Diego's Murphy Canyon neighborhood during a period of dense fog. A huge fireball erupted after the crash, setting multiple homes and cars ablaze.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Is this the same field as the medical lear that was on the sketchy "vfr" circling approach? Which wasn't auth at night.

I believe it is....That's the flight I was referring to at least.

No I think that was Gillespie Field, which is separate from Montgomery.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Seems to be a ridge right about there…

 

[flyingpotato]

Given FAA is in strict rule making mood, likely they adopt DX required for 91/91k/135 for aircraft with sitting capacity above C ( x ) .

Haven't dug too much into it, but this stood out:

 

[DE727UPS]

Looking at the ILS there you couldn't do that approach. You could do the LOC and needed a mile vis. Weird how that restriction doesn't apply to the LPV.

 

[flyingpotato]

What's their ALT was given fuel/range constraints? Was asking SOCAL App for WX ALTs--check SDM, check, SEE, "uhh not great but we'll give it a go" -- not sure what they were expecting going into SAN area overnight/morning hrs without a solid ALT (typical go to ALT for these overnights into that area is PSP/ONT given the marine layer, and its a couple hundred pounds more for lights jets). Seems like they were flight planning mid flight, "I'll come back to you with an alternate just in case"--"hopefully not see you but we might have to".

https://archive.liveatc.net/ksan/KSAN-SOCAL-App-Dep-West-May-22-2025-1030Z.mp3

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3C1RHOzJOxg

 

[MikeD]

Looking at the ILS there you couldn't do that approach. You could do the LOC and needed a mile vis. Weird how that restriction doesn't apply to the LPV.

Been out there working the past few weeks around a number of airfields, and MYF has had inop approach lighting components for a while. Shouldn’t have been a surprise, at least not with adequate prep time and not a last minute thing. Indeed interesting it doesn’t apply to the RNAV approach, 3/4 mile viz still allowed

Definitely some weird stuff out in that area like this. At SEE, there’s been a longtime NOTAM that keeps referring to an ILS 27R, which SEE doesn’t have. They only have a LOC circling approach.

 

[Boris Badenov]

What could go wrong?

Citation II on a transcon? Under Part 91? Nothing could possibly go wrong, must have been a glitch, a technical malfunction of some sort.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

The guy sounds pretty nonchalant, with no exit plan for alternate? He’s talking to the approach controller. That’s pretty late for alternate planning. Why not discuss this at TOD minus ~50-100 miles? If the ASOS at Montgomery is broken, then it gives plenty of time to get weather from surrounding airports like Gillespie, Brown, SAN, etc.