knot4u
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I thought you said a 182 was boring?
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zmiller4
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100% would agree.
Before I had kids I’d take the flying club Mooney from Raleigh to see my parents in Nashville with my wife. Total trip time was about the same as taking southwest, and it actually didn’t cost *that* much more.
But I couldn’t do that trip in that plane with *one* of my two kids. A 182? It would probably take an extra 30mins and would take all of us and golf clubs.
Unfortunately I’m far enough away from anywhere we’d want to fly to make any airplane I could remotely afford a viable option…but if we still lived in NC I would 100% be looking for 182’s.
If I were to fly with my family I would want the most boring airplane possible.
Going from flying 80-100hrs a month to a few hours really shows you how much your skills can take a hit. I’d want something with as few knobs as possible.
DropTank
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It is.
Exciting flying is high risk flying. (and frankly fun flying)
Mustangs, pitts, and the like have a habit of killing people.
knot4u
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Your "excitement" threshold is pinned at 10. I wish you luck in your future aviation endeavors. Lots of people are able to enjoy aviation in a very gratifying manner without doing anything at all dangerous. I'm sorry you've lost it.
knot4u
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Wooden wing spar is a no go for me.
fholbert
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Because wood is stronger?
Because wood doesn't crack and fatigue like aluminum?
Because wood gives a smother ride?
This guy hit a mountain a cruise speed near Crescent City. The spar survived, the steel connection failed.
knot4u
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Wood is not stronger, otherwise we'd still be flying heavier wood airplanes.
Wood cracks and instead of corrosion it's called rot.
Smoother ride? I think that's a very subjective metric. Maybe?
I like the fact that you love your Bellanca but it's an antique for a reason.
stroboli62
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In my ol homietown of STP MN
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stroboli62
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I guess cuz, like JR says.......they can !!
stroboli62
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couple of years back in the Twin Cities.....apparently massive engine failure enroute home...not my plane
fholbert
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That‘s someone I know. Quit About 40 seconds after departure. He had it made until the car in front of him saw the strobes and slammed on the brakes. The plane is being repaired.
fholbert
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No, stamping out aluminum parts is a lot cheaper than hand made wooden parts.
As far as weight, I don’t think my wings are much different. I’ve been on one end by myself when Viking wings were loaded on a trailer.
Cracks? You’re showing how much you don’t know. The spars are glulams. The ribs are plywood. Cracking doesn’t happen.
Like white powder on aluminum, dry rot can be an issue if water is allowed to sit in the wings/spar.
Wings that flex give a smother ride. That’s an undisputed fact.
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knot4u
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White power on aluminum? I know it's a typo, but it's funny these days. You're taking what I said as a personal attack against the love of your life, that was not my intention. If building wood airplanes was optimal we'd still be doing it, that doesn't mean your airplane is flawed, it means that better ways of doing things have been introduced. There are two airplanes that if I was so rich I had enough F me money that I'd like to see fly again one would be the XB-70, the other would be the H-4. I have no angst regarding wood airplanes.
DropTank
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Yeah, I'm afraid it is. I had to change direction because nothing would register anymore and you need a certain amount of fear to keep things safe.
I do miss it, but I also knew what was eventually going to happen.
knot4u
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I can give you multiple examples of old, bold pilots (when I say bold, I mean really bold).
fholbert
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The last Super Viking was built in 2005, the factory owners are hinting about building again. I don’t think it will happen, it’s hand built and the craftsmen required are gone.
Many of the aerobatic aircraft being built today are wood and fabric. It’s not a lost art, just takes a lot of love to build one.
Jump ahead to 6:10 to see how a Viking flys. Don’t try this with a 182.
DropTank
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Inverted
mmmmmm wine
That was a buddy's airplane. He did a great job
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Incorrect.
Nobody is really actively building a wood and fabric aerobatic aircraft.
ACA switched to metal spars almost 2 decades ago for a reason. Aviat hasn't sold a Pitts S2C in years, nobody is ordering them. I did hear that somebody ordered one for 2022 which would make exactly 1 order for a wood and fabric winged aerobatic aircraft for 2022.
All aerobatic aircraft that are actively being sold and built, are composite monocoque and composite winged with steel tube fuses
I have done lots of acro with wood spars, I don't have a problem at all with wood spars, but to say it is a superior material is not really correct.
