Too high for my comfort level...

SteveC

SteveC

"Laconic"
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...but she'll do it.

Yes sir, that's my baby
No sir, don't mean maybe...
(Not that actual plane, but our company will be taking the very last one off the line...)


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That's some high flyin' stuff for suah :cool: what are the Q (a.k.a. coffin) corner numbers for this model?
 
mikecweb said:
Should it bother me that they are bugged for .76 and it looks like they can't maintain even .70
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My guess, being familiar with the plane, is that they were just finishing the climb (probably in a vertical speed mode, not an airspeed mode). Still shows 100FPM climb, 0.67 AOA. Would probably take a looooong time to get up to 0.76 at that altitude/AOA.
 
SteveC said:
My guess, being familiar with the plane, is that they were just finishing the climb (probably in a vertical speed mode, not an airspeed mode). Still shows 100FPM climb, 0.67 AOA. Would probably take a looooong time to get up to 0.76 at that altitude/AOA.
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Totally different wing and airplane but I remember in the 30 series lears there was a rule of thumb if you couldn't climb at .74, stop climbing as it'll never accelerate. Miss flying those dang airplanes. Been a long time.
 
The 35 was my first jet and the 45 my first advanced airplane, they both taught me a lot and its sad to see the end of the line for them. Got to fly a 25 a few years ago doing upset training at Calspan, what a blast that was!
 
SteveC said:
My guess, being familiar with the plane, is that they were just finishing the climb (probably in a vertical speed mode, not an airspeed mode). Still shows 100FPM climb, 0.67 AOA. Would probably take a looooong time to get up to 0.76 at that altitude/AOA.
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Gee, what accident do I know where pilots max ceiling 41 oh’ed it in vertical speed of 500 fpm, leveling off at 180 kts indicated and about Mach .58ish
 
Years back, when I was still an SIC and we were just getting our first Learjets, I was on a flight with our then-Chief Pilot, coming back to Michigan from the West coast, no pax on board, I think it was a LJ40 (same type rating covers the 40, 45, 70, and 75 - we have all versions in our fleet). Asked for a block altitude and just let it climb while keeping a constant Mach (don't remember what airspeed we used). Made it up to 49,800' before ATC started us back downhill.
 
SteveC said:
Years back, when I was still an SIC and we were just getting our first Learjets, I was on a flight with our then-Chief Pilot, coming back to Michigan from the West coast, no pax on board, I think it was a LJ40 (same type rating covers the 40, 45, 70, and 75 - we have all versions in our fleet). Asked for a block altitude and just let it climb while keeping a constant Mach (don't remember what airspeed we used). Made it up to 49,800' before ATC started us back downhill.
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Yup I’ve done the same before. It’s quite interesting.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
My regional airline had a crew that did 410. They didn’t make it up there long. Last words on the CVR were “we’re gonna hit houses dude.”
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Equipment capabilities and context matters. You're talking about an aircraft whose certified ceiling was FL410 and a 121 line crew. The picture above is a flight flown by factory pilots, in a model of aircraft that I routinely fly between FL400 and FL 450.
 
arkflyr said:
The 35 was my first jet and the 45 my first advanced airplane, they both taught me a lot and its sad to see the end of the line for them. Got to fly a 25 a few years ago doing upset training at Calspan, what a blast that was!
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I wanted to do that. Went to APS. Oh well.
 
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