Oh, Cessna Mustang Pilot

[fholbert]

Date:	01-DEC-2021
Time:	12:33
Type:	Cessna 510 Citation Mustang
Owner/operator:	Private
Registration:	N81CB
MSN:	510-0439
Fatalities:	Fatalities: 0 / Occupants:
Other fatalities:	0
Aircraft damage:	Unknown
Location:	Lake Havasu City Airport (HII/KHII), Lake Havasu City, AZ - United States of America
Phase:	Landing
Nature:	Private
Departure airport:	Houston Executive Airport, TX (KTME)
Destination airport:	Lake Havasu City Airport, AZ (KHII)

Narrative:
The aircraft landed gearup.

 

[Murdoughnut]

I would imagine a plane built in 2013 makes a few sounds to notify you the gear is still up.

 

[fholbert]

I would imagine a plane built in 2013 makes a few sounds to notify you the gear is still up.

Yea, even more right after touchdown.

 

[NovemberEcho]

Yea, even more right after touchdown.

it’s all about GUMPS. Gear Up Make Plane Slide.

 

[CFI A&P]

I would imagine a plane built in 2013 makes a few sounds to notify you the gear is still up.

Sort of like this 182RG.

 

[Wardogg]

Or this Socata.

 

[stroboli62]

Good Christ...I haven't flown a retract in about 10 years and I can still figure what the sound means...my turns a coming!!

 

[Skåning]

Yea, even more right after touchdown.

You can do it, but it just takes more power to taxi off the runway

 

[Beep]

I still don’t understand why they haven’t replaced horns and tones with a verbal warning system in all aircraft with retractable gear.

 

[Roger Roger]

I still don’t understand why they haven’t replaced horns and tones with a verbal warning system in all aircraft with retractable gear.

The last airplane I flew that didn’t have a verbal was the Navajo

 

[Richman]

“Sorry, I couldn’t hear the tower’s warning because the gear horn was blaring in my ear”

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

I still don’t understand why they haven’t replaced horns and tones with a verbal warning system in all aircraft with retractable gear.

Wait til you hear that "stall, stall, stall!" going off 40 times still didn't register with 3 pilots they were stalled...

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

I still don’t understand why they haven’t replaced horns and tones with a verbal warning system in all aircraft with retractable gear.

Pretty sure the Cj3 had a verbal warning that said “landing gear, landing gear” over and over under certain conditions.

I’d be surprised if the Mustang didn’t have one.


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[CFI A&P]

I still don’t understand why they haven’t replaced horns and tones with a verbal warning system in all aircraft with retractable gear.

Wipaire floats have a human voice that says "wheels down for runway landing" or "wheels up for water landing" based on the gear position and triggered by an airspeed switch.

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[Minuteman]

I’d be surprised if the Mustang didn’t have one.

AFAIK (which isn't much about the Mustang), it has just the G1000's TAWS-B functions (the same as a G1000 in a C172). Per AC 25-23 that includes these functions:

• Reduced required terrain clearance
• Imminent terrain impact
• Premature descent
• Excessive rates of descent
• Negative climb rate or altitude loss after take-off
• Descent of the airplane to 500 feet above the terrain or nearest runway elevation (voice callout “Five Hundred”) during a non-precision approach

Class A (typical of larger jets where a radio altimeter isn't a factory option) is everything in Class B plus:

• Excessive closure rate to terrain
• Flight into terrain when not in landing configuration
• Excessive downward deviation from an ILS glideslope

 

[Beep]

Wait til you hear that "stall, stall, stall!" going off 40 times still didn't register with 3 pilots they were stalled...

yeah, but not everyone would tune it out.

 

[fholbert]

Many aircraft, including mine, have a feature that extends the landing gear at lower speed/power settings If the pilot forgets.

 

[knot4u]

Many aircraft, including mine, have a feature that extends the landing gear at lower speed/power settings If the pilot forgets.

Not enough apparently.

 

[DropTank]

yeah, but not everyone would tune it out.

There was that 747 had 7 "WHOOP WHOOP!! PULL UP!" calls with 4 or 5 people up front.
(Flying Tigers?)

 

[melax]

Once with Boeing 747....

Accident Boeing 747-282B AP-AYW, Tuesday 4 February 1986

Belly landed after the crew forgot to lower the landing gear.

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History of PIA - Pakistan International Airlines

And Airbus A320....

Accident Airbus A320-214 AP-BLD, Friday 22 May 2020

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Then there is "Oh Hard Luck"...

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At about 10 p.m. local time on May 8, 2006, a 7th Bomb Wing B-1B Lancer (Tail Number 86132 – called “Oh! Hard Luck”) based at Dyess AFB, Texas, made a wheels-up belly landing on r…

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Bad Landings

Proving that even to a skilled Aviation Maintenance Tech, sometimes simpler really is better.

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