Oh Dacuj

I saw this in an ALPA magazine. How do people like this exist?

Possible suspects:

Dacuj
or
a Main Line pilot



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Pretty far back :(

I get ALPA, AOPA (lifetime), and Flying. I can only stuff so many of those in my flight kit bag. I also realized they’re out of order. Just read an AOPA magazine for May 2020, whereas just last week I read the latest June (‘21) magazine. I gotta organize them better.
 
I have much respect for NK pilots after sitting next to a crew of their FAs last week at MCO where one was describing the constant diarrhea she gets from “not having the full 17’ of colon”
 
Having flown with Captain Becker, I have a hard time thinking of someone better as a model Airline Pilot (other than myself of course) He is professional, knowledgeable, courteous and an all around awesome guy. Unfortunately as a Fellow NK Pilot, I too have experienced the same interactions, either in the airport or even on a jumpseat, and mostly RJ jumpseats at that. I am extremely grateful for the opportunity that I have been given, and I do my best to treat everyone with kindness and respect even when I do not receive the same in return.
 
Having flown with Captain Becker, I have a hard time thinking of someone better as a model Airline Pilot (other than myself of course) He is professional, knowledgeable, courteous and an all around awesome guy. Unfortunately as a Fellow NK Pilot, I too have experienced the same interactions, either in the airport or even on a jumpseat, and mostly RJ jumpseats at that. I am extremely grateful for the opportunity that I have been given, and I do my best to treat everyone with kindness and respect even when I do not receive the same in return.


Well…




So what did you do wrong to end up at Spirit? ;)
 
Moral of the story......There are A-holes in every industry and its not limited to any one company.

True, but I can’t imagine a place like Frontier asking what someone did wrong to end up at Spirit. This sounds like a Main Line pilot (one of the big 3, esp the Fau Cet ;) )
 
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I remember back in the early days, there was a certain Southern jets airline based out of ATL who wore double breasted jackets and always wore their hats while walking down the terminal…smartly. My perception, and others confirmed, that many would seemingly make it a point to quickly look the other way, stare at their watch or do whatever it took to ignore us lowly “freight dawgs”. I could relay countless stories but it just doesn’t seem to matter anymore. Yes, it did hurt a little as I never quite understood this elitist attitude but after a while I stopped worrying about it.

Well, as they say…times have changed. Colleagues from that airline and many others now seem to go out of their way to approach me and ask about UPS, our contract and the IPA’s unity. Heck, even had a young Delta pilot on my jumpseat last night...nice guy, respectful and thankful for the ride. Seemed like a regular guy…not the primadonnas of the past. CASS members are always welcome to ride…happy to help.

My point is…don’t let this profession define who you are or how you treat folks. You’re not that special. Or, I should say..you are special, just like everyone else. It’s just a job at the end of the day. The only reason I’m here and someone else isn’t is simply because I got luckier than they did, not because I’m a better aviator or look good in a uniform (I don’t). We all do basically the same job and have to climb through and navigate the same obstacles and hurdles. Abide by the golden rule and be nice and thankful to people on the way up. Someday you made need their help on your way down. Enjoy the journey and appreciate your good fortune while taking time to help someone else.

Learn to laugh and have fun. This career and the friends you make are gone way too fast to worry about BS you can’t control.
 
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Unfortunately with any “prestigious” (i.e. comes with a uniform or title) or high earning job there will be lots of people who aren’t in it for anything else. It’s a big competition. It’s the ultimate culmination of human insecurity. He “made it” and the other guy didn’t, making HIM the winner.

Lot of “DO YOU LOVE ME NOW DADDY” bros walking around in this business.

They open their mouth to tell you how big they are but it only shows they’re really small inside.
 
........ Abide by the golden rule and be nice and thankful to people on the way up. Someday you made need their help on your way down. Enjoy the journey and appreciate your good fortune while taking time to help someone else.

Learn to laugh and have fun. This career and the friends you make are gone way too fast to worry about BS you can’t control.

I've recently had very similar conversations with my youngest who is graduating from Navy Nuclear Power School this week. Admittedly he has struggled with some of the work and does not have the highest GPA. There are some parents in the various FB groups ranting on about "Oh the Nukes are the elite...." I took some flak for some of my comments but basically told the group..."Once you get to the fleet nobody gives two poops what your GPA was. The only thing that matters is "Can you work well with others and Dont be an ass-hole". Any sailor showing up in the fleet with an Elite attitude will get their ass handed to them....
 
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We have elitist pilots within our group at BlueJuice Factory. Oh, you’re on the 190………(fill in the blanks). Does not matter to me. I don’t commute, have a nice schedule and my QOL is damn good. My airline is better than your airline guys live in their own world and nothing you say will change their minds.
 
It’s one thing that’s always bothersome in this business, is the “You’re lower than me because you’re xxx” or “you must not have any self respect to work there”.

For some of us, we went wherever because we didn’t have a choice OR the first company that called wasn’t awful or much better than our current gig, so why not?This was especially prevalent in the old days of $18/hr FO regional pay and the QOL that went with. It follows the “you need experience to get a job but you can’t get a job without experience” paradox. “Oh dude, I know it’s Mesa, but it’s a job” said one colleague who was bummed about getting picked up by “the scourge” from instructing. “How can you work for so little money?”. This was usually said by folks responsible for A/B pay scales and lucky to be hired at right place right time or some version of that.

If you weren’t a product of Uncle Sam’s flying academy or mega university flying school with a great record or GPA, many doors weren’t open to you in the “Lost Decade”. Especially if you were, like me, dumb enough to think you could get along without a 4 year degree and move on. ( Your mileage may vary, of course)

Things have changed again, but yet we still are great at being cold to each other in vans and airports. “Well, YOU took our flying”. No sir, my company took your flying at the request of the legacy mothership, which none of us have any say in. We’re all just pawns, looking to get the best from whatever our careers give us without crappy quality of life. We don’t need to be fake, just be nice.
 
Things have changed again, but yet we still are great at being cold to each other in vans and airports. “Well, YOU took our flying”. No sir, my company took your flying at the request of the legacy mothership, which none of us have any say in. We’re all just pawns, looking to get the best from whatever our careers give us without crappy quality of life. We don’t need to be fake, just be nice.
Took my own jerb can confirm
 
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