Former baseball player dies in plane crash

Roger Roger said:
I don’t know that that is true. It reminds me of the early Cirrus accidents before the marketing department realized that people still had to, you know, “do pilot shiz, Mav!”
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It is not marketed to people who are very well-versed at doing aforementioned pilot stuff.

Not unlike aforementioned plastic airframe, now that I really think about it.
 
USMCmech said:
Honestly, I don't think it's a bad design. In fact all the reports I've read about the airplane say it's a great little airplane that handels great, and performs reasonably well for it's class. However, the marketing strategy of "a jet ski with wings" and the abreviated training program gave me pause from day one. Landing an airplane on the water always has been and always will be fraught with risk.

FYI, I also think the Crirrus is the best single engine airplane on the market, but the CAPS parachute is irrelevant to me.
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I dunno.

The video above has me thinking along with you.
 
guywhoflies said:
Sad that people have to die in an airplane to prove it is a terrible design.
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It's not a terrible design. It's a high performance single, not meant for your low time pilot.

Edit: Never mind, I thought this was an Epic, not that light sport deal.
 
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Autothrust Blue said:
It is not marketed to people who are very well-versed at doing aforementioned pilot stuff.

Not unlike aforementioned plastic airframe, now that I really think about it.
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....and marketed by folks who issued a low-altitude flying guide with a “soft deck” of 300’ AGL :bang:
 
greg1016 said:
aerobatics? give me a break, I expect more from Flying Mag
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They were quoting a non-pilot. And let’s be honest, though to us “aerobatics” has a very specific meaning, to anyone else low level, high bank angle maneuvering is, well, aerobatics.
 
guywhoflies said:
I shouldn't have said the design is terrible. I haven't seen it in person and I sure as heck haven't flown one. However, the marketing of the plane is terribly misleading. As you pointed out, they are selling people on the idea that it's easy to fly. While most of us find flying to be relatively easy, I don't think a manufacturer should be claiming it is easier to fly than any other airplane. I think that could make people too comfortable from day 1 when they should be uncomfortable until they've owned it for a while and gotten more experience in that particular plane...just like the marketing of the Cirrus as the safest plane because it has a parachute.

And one more thing, there are so many other planes that I would rather own for $200k. That's another reason I personally think it is terrible.
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I think it really makes no sense when you can get a certified Searay for just under 100k used. More useful load, much longer track record and the same mission.
 
Murdoughnut said:
Nice of them to film it rather than jump in and at least try to see if the guy could be helped. Bro.
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What the hell is wrong with people? I would like to think the best and think maybe someone already jumped in and saw it was hopeless and was already back out of the water by time he showed up with his camera.
 
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MikeD said:
Would be unfortunate to find out that blunt force trauma wasn't the cause of death, but instead drowning was.
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Those guys had to take a boat out there, and from looking at the video it took a little while to get there. If he survived the impact and drowned, I don't think anyone could have gotten to him soon enough anyway. It's not like that water was cold enough for him to get into a hibernative state or anything.

Speculation, I know, but seems reasonable given the.....givens.
 
killbilly said:
Those guys had to take a boat out there, and from looking at the video it took a little while to get there. If he survived the impact and drowned, I don't think anyone could have gotten to him soon enough anyway. It's not like that water was cold enough for him to get into a hibernative state or anything.
Speculation, I know, but seems reasonable given the.....givens.
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Either way, bad optics. If that was my loved one in there, I would of liked to see a couple of those dumb s.o.b's in the water.
 
MikeD said:
Would be unfortunate to find out that blunt force trauma wasn't the cause of death, but instead drowning was.
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Wouldn't surprise me. Drowning was the cause of death for all three who went down in a 100 AGL stall/spin in the aircraft I co-owned back in 2008.
 
killbilly said:
Those guys had to take a boat out there, and from looking at the video it took a little while to get there. If he survived the impact and drowned, I don't think anyone could have gotten to him soon enough anyway. It's not like that water was cold enough for him to get into a hibernative state or anything.

Speculation, I know, but seems reasonable given the.....givens.
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Based on where they were when the video was being taped, I can't think more than 5-minutes to get to the boat. I'm no paramedic, but I would assume that's within the window that CPR isn't futile.
 
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