Envoy Hiring

QXSOUP said:
It's the regional trap. You get comfortable with your life, your schedule, your paycheck, etc. and let opportunities pass by because you cannot accept a pay cut or go to the overnight shift, etc. It is VERY common. You start at the bottom at every job so if you have been at or near the top at a nice regional then going to the overnights shift while working EVERY weekend and holiday at a major is something that doesn't really too appealing.

I started at Skywest in 2004 and a few of my classmates are STILL there... 13 years later. Do you think they will drop everything and start all over at the bottom of a HUGE hill when you are already on the top of a smaller hill? The view from the top is pretty much the same regardless of which hill you decide to climb.
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DH was always kind of junior at Envoy. There are several dozen ahead of him on the seniority list there. 13 years in Envoy dispatch and you are nowhere near the top and barely in the middle of the dispatch seniority list.
 
QXSOUP said:
I started at Skywest in 2004 and a few of my classmates are STILL there... 13 years later. Do you think they will drop everything and start all over at the bottom of a HUGE hill when you are already on the top of a smaller hill? The view from the top is pretty much the same regardless of which hill you decide to climb.
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One of the old timey SkyWesters did just that in the most recent opening at AA.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
DH was always kind of junior at Envoy. There are several dozen ahead of him on the seniority list there. 13 years in Envoy dispatch and you are nowhere near the top and barely in the middle of the dispatch seniority list.
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WOW! I am surprised that the senior dispatchers have that many years! Guess it proves that many choose lifestyle!
 
QXSOUP said:
It's the regional trap. You get comfortable with your life, your schedule, your paycheck, etc. and let opportunities pass by because you cannot accept a pay cut or go to the overnight shift, etc. It is VERY common. You start at the bottom at every job so if you have been at or near the top at a nice regional then going to the overnights shift while working EVERY weekend and holiday at a major is something that doesn't really too appealing.

I started at Skywest in 2004 and a few of my classmates are STILL there... 13 years later. Do you think they will drop everything and start all over at the bottom of a HUGE hill when you are already on the top of a smaller hill? The view from the top is pretty much the same regardless of which hill you decide to climb.
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That makes sense. I know that, if I had a good schedule and life at a solid regional, I wouldn't want to leave-especially to work midnights! I've worked midnights before (just vacation relief); I've been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. You know what? I do NOT want to do that again! I could see myself being happy at a good regional-especially if it's in a city I like.

The thing about working at the majors is that you do less work for more money. At a major, if you work OT, you can make six figures; there's no making six figures at a regional. Secondly, the name on the plane and your paycheck are the same. Finally, there's the prestige factor; you're at the top of your career working for an employer who is a household name. I guess it's a question of what matters more to someone.
 
MarkM0228 said:
That makes sense. I know that, if I had a good schedule and life at a solid regional, I wouldn't want to leave-especially to work midnights! I've worked midnights before (just vacation relief); I've been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. You know what? I do NOT want to do that again! I could see myself being happy at a good regional-especially if it's in a city I like.

The thing about working at the majors is that you do less work for more money. At a major, if you work OT, you can make six figures; there's no making six figures at a regional. Secondly, the name on the plane and your paycheck are the same. Finally, there's the prestige factor; you're at the top of your career working for an employer who is a household name. I guess it's a question of what matters more to someone.
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Actually, you're pretty much guaranteed at minimum $160,000 before OT when you're topped out at any of the Big 4's. $300,000 with OT is possible.
 
Scarebus said:
Actually, you're pretty much guaranteed at minimum $160,000 before OT when you're topped out at any of the Big 4's. $300,000 with OT is possible.
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That is quite an inducement to go to a major! I would still dread the prospect of working midnights though-especially if I have a good schedule at my regional...
 
MarkM0228 said:
That is quite an inducement to go to a major! I would still dread the prospect of working midnights though-especially if I have a good schedule at my regional...
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It's whatever works for you. Money definitely isn't everything. There a lot of good dispatchers that choose the QOL over the money and I don't blame them.
 
Scarebus said:
It's whatever works for you. Money definitely isn't everything. There a lot of good dispatchers that choose the QOL over the money and I don't blame them.
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The older I get, the more important QOL is for me. Right now, I have to worry about getting out to STL, initial training, competency check, and then probation...
 
MarkM0228 said:
That makes sense. I know that, if I had a good schedule and life at a solid regional, I wouldn't want to leave-especially to work midnights! I've worked midnights before (just vacation relief); I've been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. You know what? I do NOT want to do that again! I could see myself being happy at a good regional-especially if it's in a city I like.

The thing about working at the majors is that you do less work for more money. At a major, if you work OT, you can make six figures; there's no making six figures at a regional. Secondly, the name on the plane and your paycheck are the same. Finally, there's the prestige factor; you're at the top of your career working for an employer who is a household name. I guess it's a question of what matters more to someone.
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I recently got picked up by a major and am working mids (not exclusively) and while they are very hard to adjust to, its really not that bad once you figure out the best sleeping schedule. Mids are also nice cause you get to start your weekend at 0700 and after a brief nap to get a little bit of energy lol.
 
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Kev said:
Hiring again

https://envoycareers.hua.hrsmart.com/hr/ats/Posting/view/3773


Position Preferences

  • College degree

  • Ability to understand and read a 24-hour clock

  • Working knowledge of FAA 121 Regulations
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And would think that this would be a requirement instead of a preference.

But hey, anyone can learn.
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I'm surprised they don't have a listed preference for being able to spell the company name as "Enovy" as well. ;)
 
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