Trump directive interfering with ADs

Trump wants airplanes to crash. The FAA hates airplanes.
The order did note that some regulations could be exempt from the order due to "emergency situations or other urgent circumstances relating to health, safety, financial, or national security matters."
This order has exemptions for issues of health, safety and national security.
 
KLB said:
The was an extremely poorly thought out idea.
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Just curious, why do you think thinning out regulations is a bad idea.
For example, and I'm just shooting from the hip, what if its two regulations from say 50 years ago that are still on the books but have nothing to do with any industry standards or economic policies but its for how long the crank handle must be on a Model T Ford and the use of wooden wheels on spare tires. I think we can all agree that in an example as outlandish as that, that we could do with those two being filed in the round cabinet.
I think we can all agree that the media does a pretty poor job of disseminating REAL news. Fox, Cnn, PMSNBC, their one goal is to sell advertising and make sure that people are tuning in 14-16 hrs a day. So they write articles to incite, outrage, disgust. At no time in the article did they say that the FAA is not allowed to put out AD's. At no time in the article did they quote anyone from the FAA. AD's are put out for safety. The CNN article specifically states that the EO does not include anything to do with safety...and two or three other things.

Don't believe the Hype
 
BajtheJino said:
Just curious, why do you think thinning out regulations is a bad idea.
For example, and I'm just shooting from the hip, what if its two regulations from say 50 years ago that are still on the books but have nothing to do with any industry standards or economic policies but its for how long the crank handle must be on a Model T Ford and the use of wooden wheels on spare tires. I think we can all agree that in an example as outlandish as that, that we could do with those two being filed in the round cabinet.
I think we can all agree that the media does a pretty poor job of disseminating REAL news. Fox, Cnn, PMSNBC, their one goal is to sell advertising and make sure that people are tuning in 14-16 hrs a day. So they write articles to incite, outrage, disgust. At no time in the article did they say that the FAA is not allowed to put out AD's. At no time in the article did they quote anyone from the FAA. AD's are put out for safety. The CNN article specifically states that the EO does not include anything to do with safety...and two or three other things.
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It's probably more of the arbitrary nature of the rule. Most people would agree that kicking out some old, unnecessary regulations wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
BobDDuck said:
Hmmm. Nope.

You think the regionals get whipsawed badly, wait until a company could whipsaw each domicile and fleet category.
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We are still unionized and could set our collective parking brakes and go on strike. No permission needed!
 
BobDDuck said:
Hmmm. Nope.

You think the regionals get whipsawed badly, wait until a company could whipsaw each domicile and fleet category.
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Only way it works is if pilots actually show some solidarity for one another. Therein lies the rub. Get rid of the RLA without any solidarity and exactly what you describe will happen, if pilots stuck together and literally shut down air transportation in the country for 48 hours by EVERY union saying, "nope" then it'd be alright, at least in my mind.
 
Skåning said:
We are still unionized and could set our collective parking brakes and go on strike. No permission needed!
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You enjoy your utopia while the rest of us deal with the reality of self serving, selfish idiots who trip over themselves to snag an extra dollar.

Sometime, long after the current round of negotiations, remind me to share a heavily redacted story about this.

ppragman said:
Only way it works is if pilots actually show some solidarity for one another. Therein lies the rub. Get rid of the RLA without any solidarity and exactly what you describe will happen, if pilots stuck together and literally shut down air transportation in the country for 48 hours by EVERY union saying, "nope" then it'd be alright, at least in my mind.
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Yes, but there is a ton of non unionized labor out there who would, intentionally or not, poke holes in that solidarity. And, on top of that, pilots are pretty selfish and the possibility of achieving what you are talking about (beyond the illegality of it to begin with), is pretty near impossible.
 
BobDDuck said:
You enjoy your utopia while the rest of us deal with the reality of self serving, selfish idiots who trip over themselves to snag an extra dollar.

Sometime, long after the current round of negotiations, remind me to share a heavily redacted story about this.



Yes, but there is a ton of non unionized labor out there who would, intentionally or not, poke holes in that solidarity. And, on top of that, pilots are pretty selfish and the possibility of achieving what you are talking about (beyond the illegality of it to begin with), is pretty near impossible.
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I agree with it being near impossible, but I'd like to think that one day we could live in a better world! Keep up the good fight!
 
BajtheJino said:
Just curious, why do you think thinning out regulations is a bad idea.
For example, and I'm just shooting from the hip, what if its two regulations from say 50 years ago that are still on the books but have nothing to do with any industry standards or economic policies but its for how long the crank handle must be on a Model T Ford and the use of wooden wheels on spare tires. I think we can all agree that in an example as outlandish as that, that we could do with those two being filed in the round cabinet.
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When was the last time you drove a Model T or a horseless carriage with wooden wheels? The number of Model Ts or horseless carriages with wooden wheels on the road is probably pretty slim, and the man power and effort required to officially eliminate those regulations and record it properly in all the federal register and all the related documents would be a waste of time... I understand that those were metaphors for obsolete regulations but you get the idea.
 
I think we both get the idea. Much like the rolls of registered voters, obsolete and useless regulations seem to stay on the books years after they dead, useless or superseded.
 
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