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Blackhawk said:
I'd like to say we are immune to it here, but based upon the emphasis on fuel at my last AQP I'd say that isn't the case. I've also had a few instances where FO's tried to put me into fuel critical situations.
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I did reread it and have to say, glad to see you are perfect captain!
 
OK, let's play nice!! No need for this stuff...IMO!!

Just listened to the ATC for the approach. Very sad to listen to. TWO aircraft that have fuel emergencies at the same time, this one on hold and the airport is running a runway inspection? What the .....?
 
I've heard of an OPORD before.....not so much an OPORDER.....i should start asking my perfect captains what it's like for me to back them into corners.
 
NickH said:
Nothing wrong with flying an airplane to its max range. I'm doing it four times a week right now. But that means tracking fuel usage and being willing to divert if necessary. Otto almost made me divert last week!
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Flying max range to a mountainous airport with weather is unnecessary and just not a good way to do things. Sure as heck not as a charter or airline operator.
 
MaRiO FDZ said:
You don´t HAVE to fly. You have the choice to say "NO". You don´t HAVE to land at your destination airport. You plan to get there, but if something comes up - weather, a stranded aircraft on a runway - you don´t HAVE to land there. There are a dozen airports on the route that you CAN land on before you get boxed into a critical situation. You don´t HAVE to fly a leg this long. You don´t HAVE to sign the dispatch sheet. You CAN CHOOSE to land elsewhere. It´s all about decision making.
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Yes, that's called a divert. Aka, just another day at the office for a professional pilot. Professionals also carry enough fuel for alternates and contingencies, particularly for mountain ops. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that?
 
amorris311 said:
Well since my head is in my posterior why don't you sound it out for me. After several re reads it still screams I'm a perfect captain free of error and my lowly FO's are always trying to get me killed.
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Someone else tried to point it out to you but you seem a little dense. "Tried". Nothing about an FO putting me into a fuel critical situation. They did something that might have led to one. Clear enough?
 
Blackhawk said:
Someone else tried to point it out to you but you seem a little dense. "Tried". Nothing about an FO putting me into a fuel critical situation. They did something that might have led to one. Clear enough?
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Just want to know what they TRIED to do to put you in the situation and what you did to correct it. Pretty please?
 
Blackhawk said:
Someone else tried to point it out to you but you seem a little dense. "Tried". Nothing about an FO putting me into a fuel critical situation. They did something that might have led to one. Clear enough?
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I'm fairly certain everybody knew what you meant. It was more about how you phrased it and how it came off sounding like you, as a captain, had never made a mistake that an FO bailed you out of. I'm sure that's not what you meant as pretty much every captain has that happen regularly. Part of being on a crew.
 
BobDDuck said:
I'm fairly certain everybody knew what you meant. It was more about how you phrased it and how it came off sounding like you, as a captain, had never made a mistake that an FO bailed you out of. I'm sure that's not what you meant as pretty much every captain has that happen regularly. Part of being on a crew.
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If fuel issues are being covered in AQP then they have probably come from FOQA events. If this is the case then captains let things get into a fuel critical situation.
As for me personally, just google my name and Flying Magazine and you will see that this is not the case and it is you who are reading too much into this.
 
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Blackhawk said:
If fuel issues are being covered in AQP then they have probably come from FOQUA events. If this is the case then captains got into a situation.
As for me personally, just google my name and Flying Magazine and you will see that this is not the case and it is you who are reading too much into this.
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What is this the "U" in FOQUA?
 
I'd be curious to know who did the flight planning. I doubt the RJ85 could fly with that pax/cargo load from Santa Cruz to Medellin and still have a 45 minute IFR reserve and any other contingency. If your flight plan depends on getting in right away at the destination airport in regards to fuel, you're not doing it right.
 
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