learhawkerbe400
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I understand and said so in my original post. But FedEx has a ridiculous technical test. The question is do I want to spend all the time getting ready for an interview for a job that I'm not sure I want?
Leave AA for Fedex?
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I think you just answered your own question!
However in my experience going to an interview for a company I really didn't think I had a snowballs chance in hell of working for and, at the time, wasn't my ultimate carrier worked out pretty well.
ctab5060X
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Nope.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
It is the same as the Delta Job Knowledge Test.
Stryker172
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Kingairer
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I would not go. I think it's a grass is greener situation. Cargo ops are different than passenger ops. Ever jumspeated on fedex or ups? It's a different gig. Not saying one is better than other it's just different, and not for me.
Also, you've got 35 more years to play in the game. Realize that no matter how the SLI shakes out, youre last 20 years at AA will be spent at the top end of the list doing whatever flying you want to do.
I think the threats against cargo are just as prevalent if not more so than against PaSsenger airlines.
Also, you've got 35 more years to play in the game. Realize that no matter how the SLI shakes out, youre last 20 years at AA will be spent at the top end of the list doing whatever flying you want to do.
I think the threats against cargo are just as prevalent if not more so than against PaSsenger airlines.
wheelsup
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I would go to FedEx or UPS over a pax airline. The reason being they actually will benefit from increased open sky flying, where as the pax airlines will get slaughtered. Why? FedEx and UPS don't haul cargo, they are a logistic solution company. They have an incredible ground network that the airlines cannot replicate. Just ask DHL.
I would not go to an ACMI over a pax carrier, but FedEx and UPS are vastly different from an ACMI.
I would not go to an ACMI over a pax carrier, but FedEx and UPS are vastly different from an ACMI.
wheelsup
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US Airways had a lottery system, if you met requirements you were put in a pool and your number was literally picked at random to interview. It was to avoid all sorts of equal employment type lawsuits. They also, at one point, had a 5 year max between initial check ride and application, due to issues they had with training guys who had gone a long time without initial training being able to pass training. This cut out a huge amount of guys who got stagnated in the 2008 slowdown.
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wheelsup
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My experience with interviews is typically the harder the interview, the better the job. This pretty much runs true for pretty much any position. As you know, the US Airways interview was a joke, when you applied their pay rates were dismal and very few people wanted to work there. I think it would've taken me EIGHT years to just get back to the same hourly pay as an RJ CA while riding right seat in an Airbus, and that didn't include any of the rigs I had as an RJ CA whose contract was infinitely better. In fact as you know RJ CAs who hustled made similar money to topped out US Airways A320 CAs.
Contrast that to the difficulty in even getting an interview at the better legacies.
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Trip7
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Tough choice. Personally I'd stay put. AA has the oldest pilot group out of all the Legacies and they haven't started(or been forced) to take back large amounts of regional flying yet.
FedEx does have an aging pilot group too and lots of widebodies flying but also lots of night time flying.
Tough choice but you'll do well either way. Sort of a coin toss. Good luck with your decision.
BTW, AA has pay caps that low? With the staffing crisis on the narrowbodies at Southernjets pilots(mainly mid to senior FOs) are regularly crediting 150, 180, even 200+ hours.
FedEx does have an aging pilot group too and lots of widebodies flying but also lots of night time flying.
Tough choice but you'll do well either way. Sort of a coin toss. Good luck with your decision.
BTW, AA has pay caps that low? With the staffing crisis on the narrowbodies at Southernjets pilots(mainly mid to senior FOs) are regularly crediting 150, 180, even 200+ hours.
learhawkerbe400
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That's true your job was better in the short-term. But you can never convince me being a contractor is better than working for the mainline. Airways was in a bad position from their merger but they were bound to get it straightened out, which they did. It was an investment in the future.
wheelsup
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I'd call it more of a gamble, personally. We all made it. It could've turned out ugly. Fortunately, it did not. But I share your concerns about the company moving forward, if the customer service can't get their act together we are screwed.
I actually rode on a Republic flight once, where the CA was furloughed US, and declined recall, that was prior to the AA merger obviously, but damn!
wheelsup
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The APA has always been about JOBS. That means more jobs that might not pay as well as others but the staffing levels historically tend to be higher. It's basically more of a union pro-labor viewpoint. The APA essentially caps pay at 1080 hours per year, any way you do it is up to you.
One thing that is nice is it's a rolling 1080, so you can fly up to that in an 11 month period and then bid reserve and sit at home that entire month. So it does have its positives.
AAPalmTree
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I'd stay. The gomers here will be gone before too long. I assume the SLI will not matter to you. I end up the same no matter how the SLI is done. The only people around when we retire are the same BTL guys. Top 10 at a legacy will be an unreal quality of life.
L-16B
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Yall need to stop listening to @learhawkerbe400 he's still on the 190 and hasn't even flowed to mainline yet.
Also with airways its lottery at first with their set parameters then a board of airways people would select those they wanted to interview. Just flew with a guy who did interviews. Now its not the wAAy to go.
Also with airways its lottery at first with their set parameters then a board of airways people would select those they wanted to interview. Just flew with a guy who did interviews. Now its not the wAAy to go.
AAPalmTree
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This is a LUS deal. Some things are yet to be implemented. AA has 120-150'ish max per month.
AAPalmTree
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learhawkerbe400
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Yea signed at end of least year. Second year widebody FO pays like 165/hour. Captains top out around 340/hour with FOs around 240/hr in the last year of it.
Big thing with fedex is they haven't had all their work rules wiped out by a bankruptcy. AA is so far behind its not even funny. Guarantee in 2019 when AA is amendable Parker throws 10% raises at us with maybe 1 or 2 QOL improvements and a slew of concessions and says take it or leave it. And the old dudes will take it. [emoji50][emoji379]
learhawkerbe400
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Don't be jealous that I'm mainline af.