ORD & MDW Aviation Police Officers not allowed to Carry guns ??!!

melax

melax

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They are told to run and hide in case of an active shooting (or any trouble for that matter). WTF ?? This is the most asinine thing I can think off. How can you not allow a LEO to carry a weapon and respond to a threat ??
I just cannot understand.
I never paid any attention and didn't realize that they were not armed.
This is a load of CRAP, BS, something must be done about it !

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/30/us/unarmed-aviation-officers/index.html
 
CNN tripe. There is most likely something they aren't saying, and I bet it has something to do with background checks related to them being called "Aviation Security Officer."

There is still uniformed police officers there.
 
Nark said:
There is a lot this article isn't saying.

I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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would you elaborate and educate us as to the reasons why this is a good idea ?
They are instructed to run and hide, lock themselves into a secure place and wait for the threat to go away...
The key to a tactical situation sometimes is measured in fraction of a second, in LA a guy armed with a AR-15 was taken out by an armed officer, if instead the officer ran away, we would probably have a mass killing. so please explain what the article isn't saying, Maybe we should just hire parking lot attendants, make them wear a nice crisp police uniform, save a ton of money on salaries and benefits + no liability since they will never get involved , but will go into hiding....
 
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Doooom!

Hint... airport police serve a much bigger function than just shooting people in an "active shooter" (which, by the way is one of the most asinine phrases that has ever made its way into common usage) event. I'm sure that between DHS and CPU there are plenty of armed individuals floating around.

Out here, Securitas has the contract for "airport police" so the armed guys aren't even police officers.
 
BobDDuck said:
Doooom!

Hint... airport police serve a much bigger function than just shooting people in an "active shooter" (which, by the way is one of the most asinine phrases that has ever made its way into common usage) event. I'm sure that between DHS and CPU there are plenty of armed individuals floating around.

Out here, Securitas has the contract for "airport police" so the armed guys aren't even police officers.
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CPU?
 
melax said:
would you elaborate and educate us as to the reasons why this is a good idea ?
They are instructed to run and hide, lock themselves into a secure place and wait for the threat to go away...
The key to a tactical situation sometimes is measured in fraction of a second, in LA a guy armed with a AR-15 was taken out by an armed officer, if instead the officer ran away, we would probably have a mass killing. so please explain what the article isn't saying, Maybe we should just hire parking lot attendants, make them wear a nice crisp police uniform, save a ton of money on salaries and benefits + no liability since they will never get involved , but will go into hiding....
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You may not know me so I'll give you the benefit of doubt, I am well aware of how "tactical" situations evolve.
Secondly, this is a public forum, where upon I have no intention of spilling any beans of how "tactical" situations will be treated.
 
Are these real cops? Or TSA-look alike cops? Like the TSA, just because they have a blue shirt and a shiny badge doesn't mean they should carry guns. I guess I would have to learn more about these officers before I am ready to throw an outrage at an unarmed officer.
 
BobDDuck said:
Doooom!

Hint... airport police serve a much bigger function than just shooting people in an "active shooter" (which, by the way is one of the most asinine phrases that has ever made its way into common usage) event. I'm sure that between DHS and CPU there are plenty of armed individuals floating around.

Out here, Securitas has the contract for "airport police" so the armed guys aren't even police officers.
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Yup. I'm pretty sure this is basically taking about the airport equivalent of mall cops, people who I'm pretty happy aren't armed.
 
Hawks said:
Yeah, how is that working out for them?
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I'd assume pretty good, just as long as you are willing to look past the gang-on-gang murders and related collateral damage in those neighborhoods. Does someone actually have stats about Chicago if you exclude these gang violence/murders? I'd be curious to see it.
 
BobDDuck said:
Like the door guards at LGA... They'd get to any chirping door alarm in about 2 seconds. And if they had guns they'd probably shoot whoever had just walked through the door.
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At SFO, at least back when I was doing customer service, the door guards were Filipina women in their 40-60s who usually didn't clear 5 feet or 100lbs. And they made $15/hr which I didn't even clear in my first ramp tower job. I got along great with them on a personal level(they usually had cute daughters), but I was pretty stubborn about helping them with their job of opening the door to people who have badges. One day I was working at what used to be 76A(back when the Bro roamed the earth, now it's 76 so you can park your fancy pointy noised wing slung jets on it with the jetway) and I felt something tugging on my pants(giggity). I looked down and it was a woman who must have been 4'7 pulling on my pants saying "Sir, sir! A man went down to the ramp! A passenger!". The conversation went like this:

"Go get him!"
"But sir, can you please go down and take him upstairs".
"No, that's your job"
"But sir! He is a large man!"
(door alarm goes off down the gate-hall leading to the ramp)
"You really need to go down there and get this guy, or call your supervisor, or do whatever you're supposed to do when this happens".
"But, sir! Please! Help me, sir!"
(man in a suit with luggage approaches from behind)
"Um. This isn't the Red Carpet Club, is it?".

AirServ. Keeping the skies safe. Because TSA can't be everywhere all the time.
 
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