Interesting thoughts on ORD layout...

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Derg said:
Epic controller fight! I think. I really don't know what anyone is talking about.
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Here's all you need to know about controllers, this is universal, and always applies.

We all think we're the busiest, most complex sectors/tower controllers in the world... All of us, because guess what radar sectors are generally kept at a complexity or volume level so one controller can work it, most of the time, with some exceptions.

I've sat at approach sectors for Class 3 airport (out of max of 6 up here) and I've also sat at a class 6.

The class 6 traffic is so heavily structured that the class 3 (when it was busy for an hour or two per day) was infinitely more complex, and required a massively larger skill requirement.

We rate airports by volume of IFR traffic, not controller skill requirement.


My point is every controller is busy in their own way.
 
This is all very interesting but two priority messages:

1) You're going to need to increase the yield on that NYC device. If you don't get TEB, it will lay eggs and breed and we'll be right back where we started.

2) ATL is so obviously, objectively superior to ORD by every conceivable metric that I figure there must be some secret meaning to the conversation. Anyone have a decoder ring?
 
Boris Badenov said:
This is all very interesting but two priority messages:

1) You're going to need to increase the yield on that NYC device. If you don't get TEB, it will lay eggs and breed and we'll be right back where we started.

2) ATL is so obviously, objectively superior to ORD by every conceivable metric that I figure there must be some secret meaning to the conversation. Anyone have a decoder ring?
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Just a thought, how many IFR days does ATL have compared to ORD

I can't speak about those airports professionally, but generally speaking, sep standards increase with IFR weather, at least at many airports
 
Derg said:
Riddle Thirst!

It's great to see that controllers have the equivalent of "Boeing versus Airbus….. FIIIIGHT!"
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It's all in good fun ribbing, when we hang out with tower guys, the greetings are usually

"Oh the tower pukes are here"

"Oh hey center boy how's the view? You should try going outside sometime"
 
Vector4Food said:
It's all in good fun ribbing, when we hang out with tower guys, the greetings are usually

"Oh the tower pukes are here"

"Oh hey center boy how's the view? You should try going outside sometime"
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Ha! Yes!

I'd be bellying up to a big tankard of beer in Berlin and would begin the toast like "To think, there is some poor bastard just starting his ten hour layover in Baton Rouge as we speak… Prost, gentlemen."
 
Vector4Food said:
Just a thought, how many IFR days does ATL have compared to ORD

I can't speak about those airports professionally, but generally speaking, sep standards increase with IFR weather, at least at many airports
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Don't know about IFR days, but being in proximity to the Gulf there are many days when TRWs play havoc with the arrivals.
Even on IFR days with the airport layout, however, things aren't too bad.
Deic... not so good.
 
I dunno y'all, seems like a lot of us these days are a little too quick to discount the skill and sheer ballsiness of those who came before and got us where we are.
We've since moved on and found safer, better ways to do things but you have to have some respect for the old days whether it's the ORD controllers shooting non-existent gaps to keep things moving or good ol' Ernie Gann lowering his seat and turning up the lights to plow through a thunderstorm.
 
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