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Cptnchia said:
Interesting enough, just had a line check yesterday with a Fed on the JS and had this almost exact conversation. Sometimes a policy/procedure is in contradiction to another.

You're good at moving the goal posts. But sorry, that's not what we're talking about.
 
Derg said:
I still have no idea why that call is there or what I'm looking for but it's required. I would love to have a 100% perfect operation but it's something you strive for and never achieve.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. The problem is that some people seem to have the attitude that you don't even need to strive.
 
So, sometimes someone makes a mistake in writing SOP and therefore following them should be optional?

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No not what I said. Sometimes SOPs are in contravention and I get paid to use my brain as a captain to make the big decisions.

Case in point. We are not required to do an auto land test unless the destination weather calls for Cat II/III because they have to be auto landed. Prior to departing, your destination is CAVU and no alternate is needed, with no alternate gas added. Upon arrival, your destination is Cat III, which can happen at JFK if there is a marine layer offshore. All airports in the NY area are down and your only real option is a Cat III, but you didn't do the test prior to departing so you can't legally conduct a cat III.

Now, your only option is hold and hope it clears to 1800 RVR. If it doesn't, you will have to auto land and as long as it works out, you're the hero. Screw it up, and it's carpet dance time.

This exact scenario happened to the LCA, that was why we were discussing it. One SOP, (no auto land test needed,) boxed them into a corner where the only way out was violating another SOP, (cannot auto land unless the test is performed first.)
 
No not what I said. Sometimes SOPs are in contravention and I get paid to use my brain as a captain to make the big decisions.

Which is, I'm sure, allowed by your SOP "to the extent required to meet the needs of the situation". But that's not the same as saying I fly 900 hours a year so following procedure to the letter isn't necessary. Those are two very different things.

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No not what I said. Sometimes SOPs are in contravention and I get paid to use my brain as a captain to make the big decisions.

Case in point. We are not required to do an auto land test unless the destination weather calls for Cat II/III because they have to be auto landed. Prior to departing, your destination is CAVU and no alternate is needed, with no alternate gas added. Upon arrival, your destination is Cat III, which can happen at JFK if there is a marine layer offshore. All airports in the NY area are down and your only real option is a Cat III, but you didn't do the test prior to departing so you can't legally conduct a cat III.

Now, your only option is hold and hope it clears to 1800 RVR. If it doesn't, you will have to auto land and as long as it works out, you're the hero. Screw it up, and it's carpet dance time.

This exact scenario happened to the LCA, that was why we were discussing it. One SOP, (no auto land test needed,) boxed them into a corner where the only way out was violating another SOP, (cannot auto land unless the test is performed first.)

Totally forgot about the autoland test on the mad dog.

Back in my DFW days, the captain would say "Crap! Did you test the autoland?"

*looking at the weather*

"Uhh, yeah! That's the ticket!" :)
 
WHAT???? AUTO LAND TEST???
HUH?

What crap the McDonald is....

Why yes

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Is crap.

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On the other hand, is not.
 
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