Hilarious Lego Airline satire video

UAL747400 said:
Eh, not really. Attention to the small things means there's attention being made to the big things.

Can't use a phrase correctly? Probably skimping on something that is a big deal...
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That phrase completely ignores a concept called "task prioritization", in which a human makes a relative value judgment of different tasks and their potential impacts. That judgment allows each task to be given merit relative to both its overall impact on a situation AND the other tasks that are to be performed. Put simply, all tasks are not equal in importance or significance, and thereby failure to perform a particular task has a different impact depending on that importance.

In fact, task prioritization (and the judgment that allows pilots to task prioritize) is a core aspect of airmanship. This is a skill that pilots need, value, and practice on a daily basis. We judge and assign relative importance to tasks with every situation we encounter, and we act in accordance with that. We cannot/don't assign equal value to all required tasks, and perform them all with equal effort all the time.

So, no...just because you are skimping on the small stuff DOES NOT mean that you are also skimping on the big stuff. Wearing a non-standard belt with your airline uniform does not mean that you are also buzzing your home when your leg goes through your home town. Making a non-standard callout, or missing a standard callout, does not mean that you are also forgetting to perform the "before landing check".

There's a lot of General Patton leadership wisdom I admire, but this concept, unfortunately, is not one of them. In my experience as both a military officer and aviator, it is bollocks.

In big generalities, things that look pretty probably are pretty (e.g., if a pilot is doing the small things well, he's probably also doing the big things well), but to make it an absolute is ridiculous.
 
Hacker15e said:
That phrase completely ignores a concept called "task prioritization", in which a human makes a relative value judgment of different tasks and their potential impacts. That judgment allows each task to be given merit relative to both its overall impact on a situation AND the other tasks that are to be performed. Put simply, all tasks are not equal in importance or significance, and thereby failure to perform a particular task has a different impact depending on that importance. In fact, task prioritization (and the judgment that allows pilots to task prioritize) is a core aspect of airmanship. This is a skill that pilots need, value, and practice on a daily basis. We judge and assign relative importance to tasks with every situation we encounter, and we act in accordance with that. We cannot/don't assign equal value to all required tasks, and perform them all with equal effort all the time. So, no...just because you are skimping on the small stuff DOES NOT mean that you are also skimping on the big stuff. Wearing a non-standard belt with your airline uniform does not mean that you are also buzzing your home when your leg goes through your home town. Making a non-standard callout, or missing a standard callout, does not mean that you are also forgetting to perform the "before landing check". There's a lot of General Patton leadership wisdom I admire, but this concept, unfortunately, is not one of them. In my experience as both a military officer and aviator, it is bollocks. In big generalities, things that look pretty probably are pretty (e.g., if a pilot is doing the small things well, he's probably also doing the big things well), but to make it an absolute is ridiculous.
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Your employer isn't paying you to make decisions on which of their policies you're going to follow.
 
Wait so summa yalls are tryna say that because a pilot sometimes says "3 green one in the nose handle reloaded" instead of "3 green one in the mirror cycle complete" because maybe he's still got primacy of years of doing it the other way, or maybe some other deep seated mnemonic thing going on, he's liable to flip the bird to the rest of the FOM?
 
Roger Roger said:
Wait so summa yalls are tryna say that because a pilot sometimes says "3 green one in the nose handle reloaded" instead of "3 green one in the mirror cycle complete" because maybe he's still got primacy of years of doing it the other way, or maybe some other deep seated mnemonic thing going on, he's liable to flip the bird to the rest of the FOM?
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Weird call out.

But yes, you are being paid to follow their procedures, so follow them. An occasional slip up is no big deal, but not making an effort and thinking that it doesn't matter isn't acceptable.
 
Cptnchia said:
They're paying me to operate in a safe and efficient manner. If at some point, I have to task prioritize to accomplish this, and some policies get shorted, as long as people don't die, they don't care.
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That's not what we're talking about here. An emergency or abnormal when you need to go outside of normal procedure is one thing. Wanton disregard for procedures because you think they don't matter is another.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Weird call out.

But yes, you are being paid to follow their procedures, so follow them. An occasional slip up is no big deal, but not making an effort and thinking that it doesn't matter isn't acceptable.
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That's not the discussion. The claim was that people that miss small things miss large things and most of us are in agreement that claim isn't true.

If he's pulling a call out from his last employer and is having trouble due to 5 years of primacy that doesn't mean they are missing big items.
 
z987k said:
That's not the discussion. The claim was that people that miss small things miss large things and most of us are in agreement that claim isn't true. If he's pulling a call out from his last employer and is having trouble due to 5 years of primacy that doesn't mean they are missing big items.
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If you dismiss procedure as not being important, then yeah, it's a bid deal.
 
Cptnchia said:
Well, following procedure verbatim is more important for a guy who flies 300 hours a year, than someone who flies 900 hours a year.
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Not really. Be sure to tell your next check airman that you pick and choose which rules to follow. Let us know how it goes.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Not really. Be sure to tell your next check airman that you pick and choose which rules to follow. Let us know how it goes.
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Interesting enough, just had a line check yesterday with a Fed on the JS and had this almost exact conversation. Sometimes a policy/procedure is in contradiction to another. The consensus was to prioritize, don't bend metal or kill people and submit a change request if you think there is a better way to do something. If it has merit, it'll change. Passed too. Thanks for asking.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Are those the only options? Clearly standards are slipping to be "tier 1."
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I still have no idea why that call is there or what I'm looking for but it's required.

I would love to have a 100% perfect operation but it's something you strive for and never achieve.
 
Cptnchia said:
Interesting enough, just had a line check yesterday with a Fed on the JS and had this almost exact conversation. Sometimes a policy/procedure is in contradiction to another. The consensus was to prioritize, don't bend metal or kill people and submit a change request if you think there is a better way to do something. If it has merit, it'll change. Passed too. Thanks for asking.
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So, sometimes someone makes a mistake in writing SOP and therefore following them should be optional?

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