SeaPort Airlines.....

The MEM base has been the base with the majority of the problems. That's because the PDX base has been flying the same 3 routes with pretty much the same planes for years. It hasn't experienced the growth of the MEM base. Therefore, yes, the MEM base is where the majority of the problems are. None of the other bases are doing anywhere near the flying MEM does and it's put a huge strain on everybody. Again, it's not just the pilots either. No work group here in MEM is getting the resources they need to do their jobs. Everybody is busting their butts, things are getting worse and there's no let up in sight.

And please don't post that little quip with the rolling eyes, like all of the sudden I've changed my tune. :rolleyes:

How often do you go into MSL?
 
And please don't post that little quip with the rolling eyes, like all of the sudden I've changed my tune. :rolleyes:
I can't lighten the mood? I forgot I entered an active warzone. :aghast:

Did I?

I thought I just stated the facts as you presented them.

You know what life is like a a regional because you worked as a gate agent for 10 years? Isn't that what you said?
First of all I'm not even old enough to have been a gate agent for 10 years. Might want tone up the reading and comprehension skills but I can understand. I presented as you asked something irrelevant....because you wanted to go the childish "I'm better than you" route.

Maybe next time you should actually not only read my response but what I was trying to say. Never did I once claim that I knew what QOL was like as a regional pilot. I was defending that people have different personalities. Different personalities have different perspectives on things such as how a company looks or what their career values are.

Also another point of why your question about me was irrelevant was because you claimed "no one ever" loved working for their regional and would go back. I just supplied you with an answer that some people (again because of different personalities) like their careers at regionals. I'm sure some would even go back. Am I acting like I know everything about the QOL of a regional pilot? No. You just assumed because I stated that your post wasn't true meant I was saying that I knew everything? You let it escalate by asking your irrelevant questions that wasn't based around any of my post that we all have different personalities. I even stated in my post that "I could be wrong" about why people join or leave companies. Just as you could be. Anything else you wanted throw into the mix to make yourself feel better?
 
I even stated in my post that "I could be wrong".

You sure did, but every other sentence you type is finished with some douchey passive aggressive eye roll or quip like "anything else you want to throw into the mix to make yourself feel better?"

Take it easy, Killer. You're in for a bumpy ride.
 
You sure did, but every other sentence you type is finished with some douchey passive aggressive eye roll or quip like "anything else you want to throw into the mix to make yourself feel better?"

Take it easy, Killer. You're in for a bumpy ride.
Ha. Of course I'm the •. Sorry I hurt your feelings but at least you proved you're better than someone else. Guess onto the next thread right?

;)
 
Ah, ok. I was beating the pattern up the other day and spoke to one of your crews. Was just wondering if that might have been someone on here.

Ha! Not sure who it might have been. It wasn't me. I actually wish I could get down there more often. I like flying out of BNA down to there. It's a nice quick flight!
 
Ha. Of course I'm the . Sorry I hurt your feelings but at least you proved you're better than someone else. Guess onto the next thread right?

;)

LOL.. You're too much man..

94 has to be the year you were born..
 
If you fly in PDX you have no idea about the issues the MEM base pilots have. I also suggest that you get more than a month of line flying in under your belt before you go off spouting the good word avia8tor....acting like you know all of the intricate fine details of SeaPort is just not a good idea since you are a new hire.
 
Well said @tcco94

I have ZERO desire to go to the big airlines. I am very happy flying the Van. This morning I got to chose how I went back to the airport. Got to fly by some great views. Followed the river west and my passengers got some great pictures of the Oregon countryside. Last week we were able to give our sole passenger a tour of the Dallies. 3 weeks ago I flew one of our Vans up to Alaska with the base chief pilot. Spent most of the trip looking at views of the stars most people never get to see. Actually saw the blue arm of the milky way. Then sun rise as we pulled into JNU was just unbelievably beautiful. Not going to be able to do that at Delta or United.

I love my job!!!

I can easily see myself spending my career here at SeaPort (and no I don't have any DUIs or criminal activity in my past). I've done the hustle and bustle of the big office and power lunches. I don't want to do it any more. At the same time I will not begrudge anyone who wants to move up the chain to bigger and more responsibility at a larger airline. There was a time I felt that way too. But I will leave this thread with the following story so that those that think a career with a 135 is a dead end can see my point of view.....

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An investment banker stood at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The banker complimented the fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The fisherman replied, “Only a little while.”

The banker then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish?

The fisherman said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs.

The banker then asked, “But what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.”

The investor scoffed, “I am an Ivy League MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, and eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.

“The investor continued, “And instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would then sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution! You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The fisherman asked, “But how long will this all take?”

To which the banker replied, “Perhaps 15 to 20 years.”

“But what then?” asked the fisherman.

The banker laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You would make millions!”

“Millions. Okay, then what?” wondered the fisherman.

To which the investment banker replied, “Then you would retire. You could move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, and stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
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;) Perspective.....it's a beautiful thing.

That is an awesome story. I hope it's not copy written because I'm going to use it.
 
So, you're like this about 135
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and I'm like this
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It's all about perspective I suppose, but it's all good
:)
Good grief, stop saying "PM me, I have super secret squirrel stuff to share". What is this elementary school? If you really have an issue that you think any potential SeaPort pilot needs to hear put it out there. Don't hide behind vague comments and click bait.

Rob (SeaPorts CEO) will gladly listen to any complaints you might have. He just sent out a company wide email addressing two letters he got from fellow pilots. Rob is a good guy and will resolve problems for you if you communicate with him.

But if there are problems don't come on here and elude to them without being specific. Say it publicly or don't say anything at all. You don't have to work at SeaPort, you aren't a slave. You can move on if you don't like it.

And yes I am a PDX pilot.
 
SO, what you're saying is... they're gonna end up... LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

Sorry, it had to be done!
 
@M20B_pilot

I remember talking to you a while back, when you were a wet commercial pilot just getting on with SeaPort. Now let me ask you this, if it was not for SeaPort, where would you be right now? Would you be as far along the road to the next level as you are now? Would you have as many hours in and around all of the crap weather and certain situations that make a pilot "experienced"? Not in anyway trying to single you out man, I hope you know that. I understand SeaPort has been spread very thin in the MEM base, I have seen the low morale a few times while in town. I am VERY lucky to be in the smallest base in SeaPort, and for that I am grateful.

With that being said, anyone who is looking into SeaPort needs to understand that it is a VERY small player in a billion dollar game. Of course when hiring picks up at the next level people are going to leave, why wouldn't you? Unless you already have a retirement or another form of financial security, a small pt 135 company will not be your final stomping grounds. This is why SeaPort is having a hard time and QoL is diminishing, they cannot seem to keep the pilots past ATP mins. So if you look at the route map, you will notice that MEM is our biggest base with our most complex routing system. Losing staff while trying to cover that much ground is not an easy task, for management, SOC or the pilots. That combination will continue to hurt SeaPort, and it is not just SeaPort. Most other carriers are feeling the same pinch.

Another thing to ponder, those that are now excited to move on to the regionals and think that life will be better. What do you think will happen in two years time or maybe even sooner? When hiring at the majors really ramps up, the next level will have the exact same issue. I know many that have moved on from SeaPort, most are enjoying their regional experience, just as they enjoyed their time at SeaPort at first.... I see the start of a pattern here..

As most things in life, it is about your attitude. Honestly, this really is the easiest job I have ever had. Even while flying 110 hour lines the last two months, I have had it way harder in previous jobs. Getting the occasional bump or flight cancellation has been frustrating at times, communication breakdowns are also aggravating. However, at the end of the day, I take pride in finishing the job I was entrusted to do. So @Tram with your analogy of VD and right seat 208 time, I will gladly have a record full of gonorrheasyphoherpeles in my medical record. As I am building that now magical TT, which apparently along with a pulse is now accepted at the regional level.

No drinking of the koolaid here, I will be the first to admit SeaPort does come with its fair share of issues. You just need to realize that will happen at ALL entry level bottom rung companies. I just know I would rather fly pt 135 in a van, vs teaching China's newest generation of pilots to not kill themselves.
 
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Are you married? If so, would you consider yourself and your wife unified? Do you agree on everything?
Hardly the same comparison at all. A marriage is not a career. It's not a business. My wife and are are unified on all the important issues. And, she has always supported my work choices. Now if you want to try and compare a marriage to flying for a living.....one learns over time to accept certain things because no one is perfect, including yourself. Everyone and every job has it's issues. No job and no relationship is perfect.But you weight your options and the good and the bad and when you are generally very happy, getting your needs met and are satisfied in many ways in your relationship and in love, real love, you continue in that relationship and grow together. The good obviously for you, has to out weight anything negative

What the difference is in a job, when you are first starting out in your career, not every job may be the best job on the planet. Who ever said that it had to be or was going to be? Again, if you are happy in the job, if you feel you are treated well, if you can live with the compensation and you feel there are benefits for you to fly in a certain operation for a time and you are learning some skills that you feel that you need, then what is the problem? Unlike a marriage, you have not made a lifelong vow to stay committed to your job until the end of time. This profession is all about choices and stepping stones. It also about networking, making valuable contacts, furthering yourself professionally in many ways, and some luck. The old saying of what is one man's poison is another man's champagne, is very true. And attitude plays a lot into this scenario. Getting what you are looking for in the short term, while keeping your eye on the long term is what matters. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. And it's a marathon with road blocks, hills, gravel, detours, you name it.

What I see constantly on pilot forums is everyone bickering about what place of employment is the best. This changes every few months. So the golden jobs are not the crap jobs one moment and the crap jobs suddenly get it together and become the place to go. It's all cyclic. It's always been this way. There are people who are going to be unhappy no matter where they go and there are others who are able to make the best of out any situation. Nothing is forever. If anyone thinks that once you reach a mainline or a legacy that it is the hottest best damn flying on the planet and you are always treated well and that there are never issues, you are sorely mistaken. Live through pay and benefit cuts, BKs, strikes, new contract/TA crap, horrible, greedy CEOs, furloughs, mergers and more and you might have a realistic clue.

Everyone has to decide for themselves what they need and when they need it and what they can make work. So when I see someone saying that he is happy in his job and lists all the reasons what he believes to be benefits for him for where he is in his career and experience (not perhaps for you or anyone else- because this is an individual decision) and he is positive and enthusiastic, just starting out on one side of the fence and suddenly, no one really wishes him well or hopes he does well, or says one damn thing to encourage him, but instead starts throwing stones, belittling him and trying their best to piss on him in the guise of giving "good advice" and "telling him like it is", " trying to enlighten him" or whatever the hell. But the way and manner in which this is being done, really makes me wonder what the hell is going on. He's not an idiot, he will discover what he needs to soon enough, he isn't going to stay there forever, he is enjoying himself and his job right now, has a great attitude and has a damn job. Why does that anger so many people? You don't have to wear his shoes.

It's one thing to caution someone and try to help them, but what has happened here is major dog piling and rude comments back and forth, baiting, leading to some pretty stupid comments on both sides, etc. No one even cares how he feels or what his mindset or goals may be. No one has even bothered to ask him where he plans to wind up in the future down the road or even what his next move might be. How does all that negativity benefit him or anyone else, in truth? People would faint to learn what old dogs like myself did in our first flying jobs, the chances we took, how little we were paid, how we had to live, what kind of often shoddy equipment we flew, what half assed operations we often worked for, what we flew, the places we flew and more. But we were ecstatic, determined, focused, put on our big boy pants, sucked it up, honed our skills, looked toward the future and would haven't traded our experiences for anything.

No one on here is the all seeing all being guru of aviation either and no one has a crystal ball. We can surely be more supportive, realistic and informative without just bashing the living hell out of a decent person, be a little more supportive and understanding or can we? I'd like to think so, but then I am often disappointed.

Everyone step back and take a breath already.
 
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