jtrain609
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I'll admit, I had to google the designator.
Also it turns out OV-101 is just for The Enterprise, so unless an applicant is Fred Haise, they're not likely to have much PIC time in it (and no takeoff's).
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I'll admit, I had to google the designator.
Also it turns out OV-101 is just for The Enterprise, so unless an applicant is Fred Haise, they're not likely to have much PIC time in it (and no takeoff's).
knot4u
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I was out on that dusty dry lake when that glide test took place, and when Discovery made those final passes astride the 747 at LAX I was standing on the edge of the service road, bookends I suppose.
PeanuckleCRJ
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knot4u
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I was mistaken , it was Endeauovar not Discovery.I was out on that dusty dry lake when that glide test took place, and when Discovery made those final passes astride the 747 at LAX I was standing on the edge of the service road, bookends I suppose.
Badis
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I come from a Liberal Arts background and find your comments on Women's studies...hmmm... unfair. Please spend a minute of your time reading a passage from any of Gayatri Spivak's books and you'll understand what I am talking about. Engineering hardly inculcates critical thinking and self-awareness analysis skills (vital in today's job market across the board). But again as Spivak's put it "To steer ourselves through the Scylla of cultural relativism and the Charybdis of nativist culturalism [...], we need a commitment not only to narrative and counternarrative, but also to the rendering (im)possible of (another) narrative." Well, get an engineer to explain it to you.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Perhaps your women's studies degree will help you in some career (although I don't know which), but it certainly has no relevance in flying airplanes. That was the point.
milleR
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What is your engineering experience/background?
Badis
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As long as there will be women pilots, all airliners will retain the services of Women Studies graduates.
They'd retain a Masters in Underwater Basket Weaving if an accredited university offered a degree in it.
PhilosopherPilot
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Hardly. Unless you are building the airplane, and engineering degree is arguably LESS valuable to a pilot than a liberal arts degree that teaches you how to think. Being a pilot is a thinking mans game. I'll take the women's studies major over the engineer EVERY time.
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milleR
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Why do think this? How does a "liberal arts" degree promote critical thinking better than engineering?
pullup
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No way, engineering is all about problem solving, which involves...yup, critical thinking.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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milleR
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So do I. And I work with and employ engineers. But a question that draws out dialogue is usually more conducive to a rational discussion than snarky comments and emoticons.Because he has a liberal arts degree.
PhilosopherPilot
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It's a different kind of critical thinking. I know plenty of engineering students who struggled badly in courses that made them think a little.
I'm not saying engineering isn't a great degree. It's awesome if you want to be an engineer. But in terms of being a well-rounded critical thinker, hard sciences leave a lot lacking. The universities have cut so much of the core education classes that hard science majors don't get a well-rounded education anymore.
I was a biochemistry major for 3 years before I switched to philosophy of science, so I know the curriculum for a hard science major. I realized 1. I hated working in labs, and 2. I didn't want to be a doctor or geneticist, so I turned my minor in philosophy into a major...and proceeded to make up a crap-ton of core education classes I had been able to skip as a science major. Those classes are what really taught me things relevant to life out in the world, and I realized after that what I had missed out on.
That's why I have that opinion. It isn't because I have a liberal arts degree, as ATN says... It's because I was able to see first hand what is missing in a technical curriculum.
PhilosopherPilot
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Because he has a liberal arts degree.
See my above post. You're wrong. Again. (As usual.)
PhilosopherPilot
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See above.
Again, no argument that engineers are great at a highly specialized type of critical thinking. I just don't think they are any better suited to flying than a liberal arts majors, and in some cases maybe worse suited.
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