Man, flying is boring...

PhilosopherPilot said:
I agree that there's no increase in risk, but it has been demonstrated that AP usage "tightens up" the ground tracks, FWIW. But as long as you're using a flight director it's well within tolerances hand flying an RNAV departure.

Still, I think it should be optional with FD usage mandatory. That's how it is here at least. Hopefully that doesn't change.
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Like you said, it only smooths it out a bit. We handfly 99% of RNAV 1 departures beyond 1500 feet and there has been no statistical variance in course deviations. F the scared paper pushers that want those to be AP only.

With that said, I believe FD mandatory is completely reasonable. They are tight tolerance, but between the FD and lat deviation displayed, there is zero issue with the automation level beyond that. Many carriers are walking a very fine line these days on tight tolerances and extremely dangerous "put on the AP" reliance.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
Like you said, it only smooths it out a bit. We handfly 99% of RNAV 1 departures beyond 1500 feet and there has been no statistical variance in course deviations. F the scared paper pushers that want those to be AP only.

With that said, I believe FD mandatory is completely reasonable. They are tight tolerance, but between the FD and lat deviation displayed, there is zero issue with the automation level beyond that. Many carriers are walking a very fine line these days on tight tolerances and extremely dangerous "put on the AP" reliance.
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I'll go one further and say they have stepped over the line. There is almost to much reliance on automation. So much so that we have seen deviations at my shop when it's not working right, so in our last AQP, they made us do a bunch of raw data stuff.
 
dasleben said:
Well, hell. After hearing my former company is getting seaplanes, I'm getting nostalgic. I'd gladly go back to a 402 (or a seaplane!) if I could make the same money. In a lot of respects, I actually miss flying airplanes, and I strongly urge those who are on the "big jet/far places" path to take the time to enjoy the act of flying an airplane around (I have almost 2,000 hours in the 767/757, but only ~130 total landings).
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I'm actually having this conversation right now with a buddy of mine. I'm looking at controller.com and just browsing airplanes that I can't afford because I really do miss flying. I completely understand now how so many people in the 121 world become so grouchy about aviation, and start saying stuff like "I would never go to an airport on my day off". We don't do anything fun at all in 121. It's standard procedures, same airports, day in day out. At least when I was flying the PC12 I was still enjoying flying. I remember cruising from 07FA up to FLL right over Miami beach under the Bravo, or go up and down the Hudson corridor to get into and out of TEB, or on occasions get to go offroad and land on grass strips. That was fun flying, and I didn't really miss flying light GA because I had that as a daily routine. Now I'm just bored, and flying is work.
 
I like being bored at work.

Boring is safe.

Safe gets me and my passengers home at night so we can see our families.

If I need excitement, I'll go do something that doesn't involve the public being attached to my every move. Those folks in the back didn't sign up for increased levels of risk because I'm bored at work.
 
I'll admit it. I don't care for long flights. Anything over 3 hours and I'm looking to swap out of it. Still love takeoffs, approaches, and landings. Long haul? Thanks anyway. I've been flying for 26 years. Doing it for a living for 19. It's just not the thrill that it once was.
 
I'm glad I got to fly a Navajo around single pilot for awhile, but do I miss it? Hell no.

I do plenty of mountain flying at the current gig to keep things interesting, and I know I'd feel different if all my flying was on the east coast. Heck, one of the main reasons I left my corporate gig was boredom... Based in PBI, flying up and down the east coast and mid-west 95% of the time was pretty mindless.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I'll admit it. I don't care for long flights. Anything over 3 hours and I'm looking to swap out of it. Still love takeoffs, approaches, and landings. Long haul? Thanks anyway. I've been flying for 26 years. Doing it for a living for 19. It's just not the thrill that it once was.
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Exactly my view. The perfect sector is about 70 minutes. Takeoff, climb, chat, brief, descend, land. I love days like that.
 
Cptnchia said:
We got:
757/767 - $154.50 ($165.32)
A330/767-400 - $174.35 ($194.36)
787 - $176.83 ($194.36)
747/777 - $184.59 (777 - $194.36; 747 - 204.08)

Those are of course, 12 year FO rates. No idea how AA's new rates match that. So, @Soku39 is correct, if you look at our 767-400 rate.
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@Cptnchia The numbers in red are the new AA 12 year FO rates.
 
Cptnchia said:
We got:
757/767 - $154.50
A330/767-400 - $174.35
787 - $176.83
747/777 - $184.59

Those are of course, 12 year FO rates. No idea how AA's new rates match that. So, @Soku39 is correct, if you look at our 767-400 rate.
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Oh, I have no doubt he's correct.

For comparison's sake though, our 12-year FO Contract 2011 rates are $149/hr for the 747, $125/hr 767. Our CBA becomes amendable next year... We'll swing for the fences now that you and other 747/767 operators are well above that.
 
Joshwa said:
Exactly my view. The perfect sector is about 70 minutes. Takeoff, climb, chat, brief, descend, land. I love days like that.
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Yeah. The über short (15 mins from SJU to STI) ones are fun but stressful. After 3 hours I'm ready to go in the back and watch TV. Thankfully the E190 doesn't have much over 3 hours.
 
dasleben said:
Oh, I have no doubt he's correct.

For comparison's sake though, our 12-year FO Contract 2011 rates are $149/hr for the 747, $125/hr 767. Our CBA becomes amendable next year... We'll swing for the fences now that you and other 747/767 operators are well above that.
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What is your guarantee there?
 
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