Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
ATL has changed so much in the past few years. It's pretty much unrecognizeable from what it was a few years ago. Delta has it's act together.
left behind because of gate agent
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ATL has changed so much in the past few years. It's pretty much unrecognizeable from what it was a few years ago. Delta has it's act together.
PhilosopherPilot
Well-Known Member
Yeah. Sometimes there's a guy standing at the gate with an agent telling them the flight is over weight even though they never checked with the crew. The examples are many, but a walk to the gate can save someone's bacon.
skyw82
Well-Known Member
Yeah, like I said this is the first time ever I've had an issue with a delta agent. Now Philly on the other hand... I'm always ready for a fight especially at F terminal or as I like to call it the "F U" terminal. I always linger around the gate and seek out pilots until I have to go fly because they are horrible there.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Yes and no.
Yes it is included if it's a Delta pilot who has a reservation and the flight is payload optimized. Walk ups don't count.
No it is not included for OALs.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
I'll even "pass the word" to a crew if I am on a break and see uniforms bouncing around foot-to-foot. :19 turns don't leave a lot of time to make the walk.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Ah, got it. Us DCI folks are in the latter category, naturally.
amorris311
Well-Known Member
When I flew a plane similar to yours I included it as part of my walk around. Even on 19 minute turns. Granted we didn't have many js'ers in AOO or BKW but we had some.
scooter2525
Very well Member
Gotcha. I walked up and checked today. Ill work on including it in the pre-departure work.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
I can't stand it when gate agents tell j/s the flight is weight restricted (or tell me for that matter). It's not weight restricted until I sign the load manifest.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
"Wow, I don't know how many they can take...gosh it's almost time to close the door and get them out so I don't take the delay...UH..25 and zero!"
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Dulles is fun. I've had weight restrictions before where we have called ops to tell them and one of us had run in and told the gate agents in person. Sure enough we get the paperwork from the flight attendant and its a full boat.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Carlsbad is so O-G-S-W* that they usually know before we do what and who (whom?) we can or cannot take. Unfortunately, many other places are disaster areas.
"Erm, 30 and zero won't work with 1,100lb in the bin, guys."
Original Gangsta SkyWest.
PhilosopherPilot
Well-Known Member
I've been on the receiving end of that numerous times.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Ticking off the world, 27.5 seats at a time!
PhilosopherPilot
Well-Known Member
A quick, "Funny, I didn't realize I had calculated the weight and balance already" makes the point. The dispatcher may run the numbers and say it is planned to be weight restricted, but you'd think the gate agents would know the difference between planned and actual.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Yeah, there has to be a JS reservation made prior to the flight being labeled "payload Optimized."
And only a mainline pilot can make a reservation.
billbraskysFO
Well-Known Member
I have only been left behind once during my cross country commute. It was mostly my fault too. Flight was a 757 leaving out of concourse A in ATL. Was pretty sure I would get on as a non rev but figured I would list for Jumpseat anyway. Show up 45 prior and the one and only agent is swamped due to a aircraft configuration change. I decide to let her be, first mistake. Boarding commences and winds down. There are 6 or 7 of us standing around with the screen showing 11 open seats. Agent takes paperwork down and I am now suspicious but think she closed the door because she was the only agent and couldn't leave it unattended. I go around to the side window and hear the familiar sound of the jetway moving and see it pull back from the airplane. She comes back realizes what she had done. None of us were very happy. Bottom line is I always list for the Jumpseat when commuting home. Agent felt really bad about what happened and I understood somewhat since she was the only agent. The funny thing is my next flight left out of concourse F and there were 3 agents working an -800. Go figure.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me on United at IAD going to Seattle once. Oversold flight and I had filled out the jumpseat paperwork (and was the only jumpseater). The agent was all set to print out my boarding pass when a woman came up the jetway in tears because somebody was in her seat and she thought she wasn't going to get on the flight. The agent told me she'd be right back and went down the jetway. You couldn't actually see the plane from the podium so I just stood there waiting for 10 minutes and when she finally came back she looked at me and asked if she could help me. I showed her the jumpseat form and she goes "oops! there goes the plane now." 3 hours later I got on an American flight to Dallas and then an Alaska flight to Seattle.