Has it come to this?

You'd be surprised, on a statistical level, how little parents have to do with a child's success or lack thereof.

All hail Stephen Dubner.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Here's the thing though. Not everyone is you or has the same experiences that you did/do. Some kids when not challenged check out and get bad grades. While others become a disciplinary problem. While others are like, this is super easy, I'm just gonna sit back and skate and not be noticed.
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I've never known that. My brothers were the same in high school. It was easy (except AP classes in which you actually had to work). The ones I noticed that sat back and skated were the ones who were not grasping what was going on, did poorly on quizzes and exams, and subsequently got very low grades. Disciplinary problems? Not a single person in our class top 10 had any disciplinary issues. If you are "checking out" then your mind is really not in that classroom. I went to high school knowing no matter what, I had to do well which means getting good grades. Colleges won't care what your excuse is if you get bad grades. No matter how easy or hard a class is, you should strive for a good grades.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I've never known that. My brothers were the same in high school. It was easy (except AP classes in which you actually had to work). The ones I noticed that sat back and skated were the ones who were not grasping what was going on, did poorly on quizzes and exams, and subsequently got very low grades. Disciplinary problems? Not a single person in our class top 10 had any disciplinary issues. If you are "checking out" then your mind is really not in that classroom. I went to high school knowing no matter what, I had to do well which means getting good grades. Colleges won't care what your excuse is if you get bad grades. No matter how easy or hard a class is, you should strive for a good grades.
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The bolded part is why they were checking out! On one side of the spectrum they could not being challenged enough. So they're bored and maybe want to talk to their neighbor. Pass notes, become a class clown, which disrupts class. On the other side of the spectrum a kid could maybe not be understanding the material and can be doing the same things, but for different reasons.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
The bolded part is why they were checking out! On one side of the spectrum they could not being challenged enough. So they're bored and maybe want to talk to their neighbor. Pass notes, become a class clown, which disrupts class. On the other side of the spectrum a kid could maybe not be understanding the material and can be doing the same things, but for different reasons.
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Well you can't keep all 30 kids in a class engaged. Every kid is different so there is no such thing as no child left behind. It could also be a case of ADD if you can't pay enough attention for 45 minutes in one class. As I said, my high school classes (except AP) were easy and I found it entertaining. And yes I was one of those class clowns who did some of those things you mentioned but the teachers always knew that I was sharp.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Hardest math everyday is pounds Jet A to gallons, and not even that is an everyday thing - only when the sonofa(bleep)ing pressure refueling is out of service. "Aw poo."
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That's guaranteed to happen at least once a week. It's also fun when the valve doesn't close and you end up losing 20 something gallons out of the vent...and the refueler takes a Jet A shower. ("I told you to be careful standing underneath that vent.") :)
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I've never known that. My brothers were the same in high school. It was easy (except AP classes in which you actually had to work). The ones I noticed that sat back and skated were the ones who were not grasping what was going on, did poorly on quizzes and exams, and subsequently got very low grades. Disciplinary problems? Not a single person in our class top 10 had any disciplinary issues. If you are "checking out" then your mind is really not in that classroom. I went to high school knowing no matter what, I had to do well which means getting good grades. Colleges won't care what your excuse is if you get bad grades. No matter how easy or hard a class is, you should strive for a good grades.
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I've never had an overall GPA over 2.9 in my life, and I recently finished my first doctorate. This goes to show that a poor GPA in highschool and undergraduate is a harbinger of doom for your academic career.
 
We need to call teachers on their inappropriate decisions; even more important, call administrators on their inappropriate decisions toward teachers and most important, call school board members on their inappropriatenesses. That's OK!

Public education isn't what it's supposed to be, taken as a whole. Too much throwing money at more administrators, IMHO.

Just don't become a Little League parent who corrects the coach with a 9mm.
 
jtrain609 said:
I've never had an overall GPA over 2.9 in my life, and I recently finished my first doctorate. This goes to show that a poor GPA in highschool and undergraduate is a harbinger of doom for your academic career.
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I just read a metaphorical conceptualization Op-ed piece delivered to a pilot from an attorney. Sorting through all the Ph.D words I couldn't understand, I think it basically said if you screw around on your wife or girl friend you're gonna die....physically and financially. John, do I have to call you Dr Train now? I prefer Doc if that's not too casual.
 
Derg said:
You'd be surprised, on a statistical level, how little parents have to do with a child's success or lack thereof.

All hail Stephen Dubner.
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Wait. "Y'all" have been complaining how parents are never involved and the poor teachers are so overworked. Now you say the parents level of involvement has little or no effect?
 
CaptBill said:
I just read a metaphorical conceptualization Op-ed piece delivered to a pilot from an attorney. Sorting through all the Ph.D words I couldn't understand, I think it basically said if you screw around on your wife or girl friend you're gonna die....physically and financially. John, do I have to call you Dr Train now? I prefer Doc if that's not too casual.
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Only in Texas and Oklahoma.
 
jtrain609 said:
I've never had an overall GPA over 2.9 in my life, and I recently finished my first doctorate. This goes to show that a poor GPA in highschool and undergraduate is a harbinger of doom for your academic career.
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No, but if you get a 2.9 high school GPA you probably won't be going to a top 3 engineering program in the country.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
No, but if you get a 2.9 high school GPA you probably won't be going to a top 3 engineering program in the country.
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Nope, didn't apply. Wasn't interested, to tell you the truth. I was going to fly airplanes, and I applied to the one university I was interested in attending accordingly.
 
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