ATP Final Rule Signed

PhilosopherPilot said:
GPA was actually the best indicator of success in training though.
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I understand the concept here, but it also frustrates me. I failed miserably at the first 2 years of college. I even failed 2 classes completely. I had poor study habits and didn't care that much. I then realized this was not to my benefit. I picked it up and got almost a 4.0 from there forward, however the damage was done and my GPA suffered largely from it. I have all the normal ratings, and have been through 4 airline training programs, as well as multiple recurrents. I have never failed a checkride or had poor performance during any of my training, both for ratings and jobs. Again, I understand the desire of airlines to look at GPA, but I'd hope they'd take actual performance in the field into account as well (at least in training for the field) because I like to think I could bring just as much to an airline as a guy with a 4.0 GPA that has never been through a training program. It is my own fault my GPA is low, but no matter how much I'd like to, I have yet to figure out how to change who I used to be!
 
Dan208B said:
I understand the concept here, but it also frustrates me. I failed miserably at the first 2 years of college. I even failed 2 classes completely. I had poor study habits and didn't care that much. I then realized this was not to my benefit. I picked it up and got almost a 4.0 from there forward, however the damage was done and my GPA suffered largely from it. I have all the normal ratings, and have been through 4 airline training programs, as well as multiple recurrents. I have never failed a checkride or had poor performance during any of my training, both for ratings and jobs. Again, I understand the desire of airlines to look at GPA, but I'd hope they'd take actual performance in the field into account as well (at least in training for the field) because I like to think I could bring just as much to an airline as a guy with a 4.0 GPA that has never been through a training program. It is my own fault my GPA is low, but no matter how much I'd like to, I have yet to figure out how to change who I used to be!
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I hear ya. Remember that the data includes hundreds of new hires, and there are always exceptions. It's a hurdle to overcome, not a complete roadblock.
 
Question - I am a military pilot with ~1300 hrs. I have my ATP written done. Are there any regs published yet stating whether I am eligible for the ATP (restricted) practical, and if so are there additional requirements outside of those published in part 61 now? All ATPs told me that if I want to use my written scores today that I'd need 1500 hours, but if I want the restricted certificate I'll need to retake the written after completing the new FAA course full of sims and other bull •, which doesn't actually exist yet.

Thanks
 
What I would love to know is how much this CTP is going to cost us guys that are going to have to go through it in order to get their written done. I am probably at least 2 years away from being in that boat, but I imagine flight schools such as ATP are going to charge a pretty penny for something like this.


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mhcasey said:
Question - I am a military pilot with ~1300 hrs. I have my ATP written done. Are there any regs published yet stating whether I am eligible for the ATP (restricted) practical, and if so are there additional requirements outside of those published in part 61 now? All ATPs told me that if I want to use my written scores today that I'd need 1500 hours, but if I want the restricted certificate I'll need to retake the written after completing the new FAA course full of sims and other bull , which doesn't actually exist yet.

Thanks
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I think ATP is full of the brown stuff! Once the FAA gets everything ironed out a current FAA written will be fine. The restricted ATP is published in part 61 online now so I would say as long as you meet the reqs for that you can take the check ride now or at least by August. The thing ATP is talking about doesn't even go into effect for a year.
 
How is the FAA defining Air Carier operations with regards to the 1000 hour copilot time before becoming a 121 skipper?

I have an ATP, and close to 3000 hours total, including ~1500 hours 91k/135 PIC & SIC.
 
I got my degree at Riddle but did not get all my flight ratings there so restricted ATP at 1000 hrs does not apply. Im time building in my C182RG based out of KRPD looking to get 200-250 hours this month and be done with this 1500 hour game. If any time building pilot wants to drop everything and fly non-stop this month contact me today. I have fuel and plane, that means "free" for you. would be nice to have another as safety pilot. No drama just fly....
 
You're going to fly 8 hours a day all month on average?
Gregory said:
I got my degree at Riddle but did not get all my flight ratings there so restricted ATP at 1000 hrs does not apply. Im time building in my C182RG based out of KRPD looking to get 200-250 hours this month and be done with this 1500 hour game. If any time building pilot wants to drop everything and fly non-stop this month contact me today. I have fuel and plane, that means "free" for you. would be nice to have another as safety pilot. No drama just fly....
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I have been doing the hours about 6 a day average. Those 8 hour days suck. Sleep and do it again. Just keeping the prop spinning. Already put in 300 hours in that plane so far. Yes it does suck especially by myself. Having a guy sitting in the plane next to me makes it tolerable. Aiming for job fair at end of October. Flying coast to coast in a 182RG is not ideal but so much safer than a warrior or C150....
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
You heading east? As in ohio east?
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If you really have the time to fly this many hours and if you have a month off from life. Flew with a few other instructors out here all of them back out when the days get long. I will definitely fly to Ohio although I try not to incur unnecessary expenses so fly to family out in dallas, colorado, arizona, save on motel cost, there is always another bed for another pilot if interested.
 
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ClarkGriswold said:
Negative ghost rider, don't need the time. Good luck though and be safe, don't push it too hard.
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Thanks its not too bad had the plane to virginia beach, random islands, over the rocky mountains in utah, over to arizona. That little plane has seen a lot recently, but yes its not for the beginner......
 
Hubbs said:
How is the FAA defining Air Carier operations with regards to the 1000 hour copilot time before becoming a 121 skipper?

I have an ATP, and close to 3000 hours total, including ~1500 hours 91k/135 PIC & SIC.
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Unfortunately it's pretty clear. Either 121 copilot time or Part 135 in "large airplanes flying pax under certain circumstances." You can find the exact stuff on the FAA site.
 
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