Lacking motivation

FlyingHawaiian

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So I've had my Commercial certificate since 2008 and haven't done much with it. I feel like its time to start building my flight experience. I've always wanted to get my CFI/CFII/MEI. I have started working on lesson plans, haven't done much and I feel like I'm lacking motivation. I need help. Any helpful suggestions?
 
So I've had my Commercial certificate since 2008 and haven't done much with it. I feel like its time to start building my flight experience. I've always wanted to get my CFI/CFII/MEI. I have started working on lesson plans, haven't done much and I feel like I'm lacking motivation. I need help. Any helpful suggestions?

What's your motivation to fly at all?

What are your goals as far as professional/paid aviation are concerned?
 
What's your motivation to fly at all?

What are your goals as far as professional/paid aviation are concerned?

I love being in the air, eventually make it a living flying for an airline someday. I think the lack of motivation to write lesson plans could be that I've been away (working) from my family / home for the past 8 months. I haven't gone flying since December. I think once I get home and start flying again I will be more motivated to write those lesson plans.
 
I love being in the air...I think once I get home and start flying again I will be more motivated to write those lesson plans.

Yeah, probably just need to get up in the air.

The lesson plan creation process is a lot of paperwork, it can be a bit monotonous, and I had a hard time getting started with it. I had to get into the flow of looking at an area of operation or task, outlining the important points, adding in anecdotes and illustrations and whatever special emphasis I wanted...and building a lesson from that. My first few turned into 12 page papers and I realized I needed to work on brevity :)

It takes a while. My advice would be to schedule 30 minutes of non-negotiable time each day to work on them. Start off by reading some other examples. Gleim's book has some good outlines, as does a book by James D. Kelly called the CFI Preparation Guide. He's a former ASI who now focuses on CFI prep and has some great advice for CFI candidates on how to build and demonstrate real knowledge and cut through a lot of the superficial crap most people do. Then after you have seen some good examples, start outlining and building content for each task. It gets easier and faster as you go.
 
Make a plan (no pun intended). When would you like to start making a living at it? How do you plan on getting there? After my divorce, I had no plan, and just took a job flying to stay current. I was miserable until I came up with a plan on what I was going to do with myself. I was just making my way through the day. As soon as I made a plan, AND put it into action, I had a path to follow. It made the motivation part easy because I had a path to follow.
 
Yeah, probably just need to get up in the air.

The lesson plan creation process is a lot of paperwork, it can be a bit monotonous, and I had a hard time getting started with it. I had to get into the flow of looking at an area of operation or task, outlining the important points, adding in anecdotes and illustrations and whatever special emphasis I wanted...and building a lesson from that. My first few turned into 12 page papers and I realized I needed to work on brevity :)

It takes a while. My advice would be to schedule 30 minutes of non-negotiable time each day to work on them. Start off by reading some other examples. Gleim's book has some good outlines, as does a book by James D. Kelly called the CFI Preparation Guide. He's a former ASI who now focuses on CFI prep and has some great advice for CFI candidates on how to build and demonstrate real knowledge and cut through a lot of the superficial crap most people do. Then after you have seen some good examples, start outlining and building content for each task. It gets easier and faster as you go.

These two things in bold right here ^

I find that going to the local airfield, and immersing myself around aviation-related affairs gets me interested in it quickly whenever I lost motivation. It's a great feeling to hang out around the stuff that seized my interest in the first place. Maybe if he found a quiet place so that he could study at an airport--assuming that he can spare the time or afford it--it could build his motivation.
 
If you really want it that bad YOU will do what's necessary to get you there!

Going 10 months without flying is not a good start
 
If you really want it that bad YOU will do what's necessary to get you there!

Going 10 months without flying is not a good start

It seems as if flying is not what he does for a living, so bearing that in mind, he's hardly at fault for tending to more important issues in his life. There are other things besides flying, of course.

I know many pilots who earned their more advanced certificates and ratings years after they first became private pilots. Then suddenly they had the time, passion and energy to resume training for higher certificates. More often than not jobs, family or something else having greater priority than flying might hamper their ability to devote themselves fully to aviation. I know one guy who just retired at fifty and got the rest of his ratings all the way up to CFI in the hopes that he'll fly charter planes owned by a local FBO; he got his private certificate twenty-five years ago.... He just didn't have the time to dedicate to it wholly ceteris paribus. There isn't anything wrong with doing that IMHO.

If there is a pressing need for someone to attend to other matters first, then it's better to take care of those matters before committing tens of thousands of $ for training. There is a man called Abraham Maslow who devoted a lot of time in researching this subject.:smoke:
 
I feel for you.. I got my commercial last May and have been working on my CFII initial since and just dont seem to be getting any whare. I went for my check ride in june and faild the 7 hour oral and then I went again July and guess what faild another 2 hour oral. I have decided and have permission to re-take my ride with another FSDO after disbuting the last ride. I was schedualed to take my 3rd retake the 12th of sept then my dad seen in my pic passed away last week so I reschedualed and I think I will end up canceling it. I just dont seem to have any motovation to keep going. Sorry if I hi-jacked your post I did not mean too. I just know a thing about lacking motovation
 
I feel for you.. I got my commercial last May and have been working on my CFII initial since and just dont seem to be getting any whare. I went for my check ride in june and faild the 7 hour oral and then I went again July and guess what faild another 2 hour oral. I have decided and have permission to re-take my ride with another FSDO after disbuting the last ride. I was schedualed to take my 3rd retake the 12th of sept then my dad seen in my pic passed away last week so I reschedualed and I think I will end up canceling it. I just dont seem to have any motovation to keep going. Sorry if I hi-jacked your post I did not mean too. I just know a thing about lacking motovation

Wow that truly sucks, man. Just hold your head up high and keep trucking.
 
I feel for you.. I got my commercial last May and have been working on my CFII initial since and just dont seem to be getting any whare. I went for my check ride in june and faild the 7 hour oral and then I went again July and guess what faild another 2 hour oral. I have decided and have permission to re-take my ride with another FSDO after disbuting the last ride. I was schedualed to take my 3rd retake the 12th of sept then my dad seen in my pic passed away last week so I reschedualed and I think I will end up canceling it. I just dont seem to have any motovation to keep going. Sorry if I hi-jacked your post I did not mean too. I just know a thing about lacking motovation

Sorry man. Give yourself a little breathing room. That's a lot of emotional hits in one summer. Remember everything in life seems to come in seasons and things will turn around.
 
It seems as if flying is not what he does for a living, so bearing that in mind, he's hardly at fault for tending to more important issues in his life. There are other things besides flying, of course.

I know many pilots who earned their more advanced certificates and ratings years after they first became private pilots. Then suddenly they had the time, passion and energy to resume training for higher certificates. More often than not jobs, family or something else having greater priority than flying might hamper their ability to devote themselves fully to aviation. I know one guy who just retired at fifty and got the rest of his ratings all the way up to CFI in the hopes that he'll fly charter planes owned by a local FBO; he got his private certificate twenty-five years ago.... He just didn't have the time to dedicate to it wholly ceteris paribus. There isn't anything wrong with doing that IMHO.

If there is a pressing need for someone to attend to other matters first, then it's better to take care of those matters before committing tens of thousands of $ for training. There is a man called Abraham Maslow who devoted a lot of time in researching this subject.:smoke:

I'm one of them, I got my private in the late 90s and added a rating every 2 years until I got my CFI.

If he has his commercial then it won't be tens of thousands of $ for CFI, CFII, and MEI. I'm guessing he's IFR

I went to AF and got my CFI and CFII for $2499
Then added my MEI for $1200
All 3 together were cheaper than my private, or my IFR.
It's 90% at home book work.

I never looked for motivation from an Internet forum to get me going. I knew what I wanted. and did what I could, when I could.

If you truly love something and want to make a career out of it you would find the time.

I raised 4 kids as a single father alone! working a day job and training when I could, and never could imagine going 10 months without flying.

I'm just calling it like I see it, you can't say I want to fly as a career and I haven't flown in 10 months in the same sentence unless you were out of country deployed, injured or something similar.

I'm not saying he shouldn't go for it, I'm just saying if you lack motivation to the point of asking a forum to boost you up,
You should take a long look at what you really want.
 
So first things first, @Terry sorry for your loss. My dad passed away 12 hours after my son was born. It was an emotional roller coaster ride. I got my medical 3 days later, my blood pressure was high but within limits. My doctor said it should be due to my new born, dad passing and job interview that was coming up in 3 days (got the job by the way). I think rescheduling the check ride for a later date is a sound pilot decision. I want to thank all for the great advice on getting motivation back. @FoodStampsPilot you are spot on, due to my current job situation I am not able to fly. My job supports my family and family comes first. @DBrown, I'm just putting out a discussion to see what others have done for motivation to complete their flight training.
I know motivation needs to come from within myself. I am deployed and have been since January 1st. If I was home I most definitely would be down at the airport flying, studying and working on lesson plans. With that said over the past 8 1/2 months I have been doing what I can to surround myself with aviation, watching youtube videos of people flying, looking at flightaware, checking out forums, looking at pilot jobs, reading aviation books (FAR/AIM, PHOK, PFH and others) and studying. I guess writing lesson plans just sucks!!! The good news is I do have a plan and will be home soon to work on getting my CFI. I appreciate everyone's comments and help. Thank you guys!!!
 
So first things first, @Terry sorry for your loss. My dad passed away 12 hours after my son was born. It was an emotional roller coaster ride. I got my medical 3 days later, my blood pressure was high but within limits. My doctor said it should be due to my new born, dad passing and job interview that was coming up in 3 days (got the job by the way). I think rescheduling the check ride for a later date is a sound pilot decision. I want to thank all for the great advice on getting motivation back. @FoodStampsPilot you are spot on, due to my current job situation I am not able to fly. My job supports my family and family comes first. @DBrown, I'm just putting out a discussion to see what others have done for motivation to complete their flight training.
I know motivation needs to come from within myself. I am deployed and have been since January 1st. If I was home I most definitely would be down at the airport flying, studying and working on lesson plans. With that said over the past 8 1/2 months I have been doing what I can to surround myself with aviation, watching youtube videos of people flying, looking at flightaware, checking out forums, looking at pilot jobs, reading aviation books (FAR/AIM, PHOK, PFH and others) and studying. I guess writing lesson plans just sucks!!! The good news is I do have a plan and will be home soon to work on getting my CFI. I appreciate everyone's comments and help. Thank you guys!!!



Thank you for your service ..
 
Yeah, probably just need to get up in the air.

The lesson plan creation process is a lot of paperwork, it can be a bit monotonous, and I had a hard time getting started with it. I had to get into the flow of looking at an area of operation or task, outlining the important points, adding in anecdotes and illustrations and whatever special emphasis I wanted...and building a lesson from that. My first few turned into 12 page papers and I realized I needed to work on brevity :)

Yes yes yes, this.

I think the whole way we go about suggesting people study for the CFI is woefully inadequate. When I asked (And I asked a lot!) the most common answer was either "study everything." or "write a set of lesson plans for private and a set for comm.".

I now disagree.

Here's what I think you need to know:
- You will (should) be tested (only) on the elements of the tasks contained within the CFI PTS.
- There is a tremendous overlap between the commercial and private PTSes, and the CFI PTS 'fills in the gaps'
- Every piece of knowledge you will need to know for the CFI practical test will branch off from the elements in the CFI PTS
- Every piece of knowledge you require is contained in the 'References' list for each element

So here's what I think you need to do:

- For each task in each Area of Operations in the PTS, including the FOI AO, create a new document, then sit down with all the reference material listed and write up a summary of what you'd like to convey. Make sure every element listed is adequately covered, along with anything you would particularly like to emphasize. You do NOT need to include details here—just a summary of bullet points, in your own words and in your own structure. These 'anchor' your discussion, but you'll be presenting the material from your own knowledge and experience. If you're less-than-completely familiar with the material, this is a good time to read it again thoroughly. Put this material together as if you were going to be teaching from it. You are.

- Think of ways to describe these things in simple terms that anyone can relate to, where possible, using your own experience and knowledge, and use that to refine your bullet points.

- Make another pass at each 'Task' document and consider the ways that you might turn the 'lecture' into a scenario-based discussion, or otherwise use a realistic situation to frame the dialog and keep the student involved. Emphasize planning, decision-making and judgement. Once again, you only need enough of a framework to speak from or use as a basis. For example:
runway incursion avoidance/airport surface operations:
(Grab a taxi diagram of ORD, plot a complex taxi route from the GA ramp and stick it in your document. Make notes, such as):
- Roleplay ground control issuing taxi instructions to student.
- Emphasize: have airport diagram, write down clearances
- What if?
- Determine how to proceed with an airport diagram
- What if?
- Brief hotspots
- What if?
- Progressive taxi / getting help
- ... etc
- Read back of hold short instructions, runway assignments, runway crossing instructions.
- What to do if you get confused
- Signage enroute
- Airport surface markings encountered (And have examples, or cite sections of the PHAK/AIM to reference so that you can go directly there)
- Operation: Lights On
- After landing
- Parallel runways

- Landing on
- Crossing
- Holding short of approaches to
- LAHSO operations
- Not required to accept: 'Unable';
- Must comply if accepted
- ALD
- ... etc.

- Go back through and add a 'motivation' snippet for each task relevant to the rationale behind learning the task, with a nod to the constraints of the FOI. "How can I make this task resonate? How can I supplement this information and make it sing? How can I present this so that I demonstrate an attitude which will encourage sound judgement from the start?"

- Make a final pass to put things into the FAA-recommended lesson-plan format, including supplemental materials, printouts from FAA (or other) sources, training aids, anecdotes, things that make it -your- lesson and not someone else's lesson. (While tempering that with the adage that 'an unfamiliar instructor with the requisite subject matter expertise should be able to teach from your lesson plan'...)

That's how I recommend you approach writing your lesson plans. Not only will you have material to teach from for any lesson that arises, you will also reinforce the mental structure you want to use to teach the material, and very likely reinforce your understanding of the material itself. It can be refined later, of course, as experience changes your outlook.

Once you've made a pass at your lesson plans, try teaching from them. That is: print them out or reference them on a computer, but try to only glimpse (recall "glance" versus "stare") at the material to remind yourself of where you are and where you want to go next, and let your experience do the talking. I mean, you're going to teach this stuff, after all! If you find yourself rattling on for too long, practice reeling that back in—as you would with a student—or if you don't feel that you've wandered, consider that the bullet point that led you to that is too broad, vague or unfocused.

Try it on camera. Try it on people. Teach your little brother how to navigate. Teach the guy you met online a few years ago about basic aerodynamics over skype. You may be surprised at how willing random people are to learn something new about something interesting. Refine your bullet points ('elements') until everything flows naturally from them.

Anyway, boy that was long. Sorry for all that!

~Fox
 
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