Save the contract towers

Maybe if we hadn't been dumping money on all the towers that do nothing for all these years we'd have money to keep the ones that are useful open.

True, but the AOPA would have been crying about that. Bottom line, user fees, or increased spending.
 
Maybe if we had a President that actually wanted to lead, as opposed to simply playing politics and punishing people for a political victory the towers wouldn't be threatened to close either. Obama's probably giddy with anticipation at the thought of a mid-air and how he can use that for political advantage just like he did with the kids from Sandy Hook.
Congress is just as guilty....if we are spreading blame. Washington in general makes me sick
 
True, but the AOPA would have been crying about that. Bottom line, user fees, or increased spending.
Or, kill towers that see stupidly low numbers of operations. I'm sure all of us have seen them. I can think of two off the top of my head-CXO and STC. Oh yeah, GVT and probably TXK...
I don't think AOPA would complain about keeping the airports open and changing them over to CTAF only.
 
Leading? What politician in recent years has run by promising to lead us?

They run because they can save you from their gun-banning, legitimate rapist, war-mongering, economy destroying, black/white, muslim/mormon opponent. It's for the children.
 
Or...option #3 decrease spending by closing facilities. Yep, I'm fine with option #3. Carry on.

Well, with that said then, you are in the minority here with our resident Republicans who are involved in aviation, in my opinion.
 
Wow you are posting outside of the lav! Congrats!

As I've said repeatedly, I'm outside the lav a lot - I just usually "read" what those more experienced have to say. I appreciate your post so I could actually comment in "General".
 
Well, with that said then, you are in the minority here with our resident Republicans who are involved in aviation, in my opinion.
Um, I actually haven't talked to any of my friendly right wing nutcases who would have a problem with closing the towers that just don't have the operations to justify their existence.
 
Well, with that said then, you are in the minority here with our resident Republicans who are involved in aviation, in my opinion.

Not really, there are a lot of us who see class D airports with low volume as a waste of money.

Most of the towers that are on the chopping block operated for years without one.
 
Maybe if the user fees for General Aviation/Corporate Aviation were brought up to world wide standards here in the United States, these towers/facilities wouldn't be threatened to close.

Yes, increase fee's on the light airplanes, that have little to no effect on your precious delay prone hubs, that are that way because airlines can't schedule for crap. Blame the little guys for your own problems, try to make the little guys pay for it, and then ignore the real problem.
Get over yourself. GA already pays, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Do a great deal of these fields need a tower, probably not. Some of them could probably go to a reduction in hours, some closed for good. Spending has to be cut and revenue has to be increased.
 
Well, with that said then, you are in the minority here with our resident Republicans who are involved in aviation, in my opinion.
Cutting worthless towers out is a good thing. For every airport that loses a tower, I gain an airport that I can fly into. I hate radios when not at work.
 
Maybe if the user fees for General Aviation/Corporate Aviation were brought up to world wide standards here in the United States, these towers/facilities wouldn't be threatened to close.
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Sure, they can be open, and control even fewer operations.
 
While I dont really care if they shut down some class D airport towers, the idea that this is addressing the real financial problems in this country is a flipping joke. Any child with at least one functional eyeball can look at federal spending and identify the problems. Ya cannot borrow money to pay for borrowed money, ya cannot maintain a military larger than the rest of the world combined, and ya cannot pay everybody's retirement with imaginary money.... until people want to pull their heads out of their ass, none of this will change long term.
 
I know IFP doesn't need it because I'm the most consistent commercial traffic they see, and that's only one operation cause they close before I return home. As for fees, all the jet traffic is starting to stay away from IFP because of all the fees the fbo (won't mention who cause you can just look it up) charges. That's how fees will work for you. Less flights, less business, less income. The gov't is the only entity/people I know that says "Oh we're not making enough money to fund our lifestyle, I think we'll just give ourselves a raise so we can spend more."
 
Maybe if the user fees for General Aviation/Corporate Aviation were brought up to world wide standards here in the United States, these towers/facilities wouldn't be threatened to close.
You're on your ass if you think that will solve the problem. GA is getting worse and worse year over year. It is cost prohibitive to rent a plane and fly around for a couple of hours now. What do you think adding user fees will do? I know you fly a big shiny airplane but remember where you came from. There is a reason there are not hoards of people learning how to fly.
 
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