Two United 777 Jets Hit Wingtips at Washington’s Dulles Airport

What "serious issue" do you propose it might be? I mean, I guess swapping paint is always pretty serious, but I feel like it might be pretty hard to lay this one at Boeing's door step...
 
Nothing like a battery, but this can't be cheap. I got mad when my brother smacked my door on my basketball goal. I'd hate to see the bill for this.
 
Shiek Yiboudi said:
Sounds more like an issue with the rampers. We all know the first-class individuals that get hired to work IAD gates... o_O

United could save millions a year in fuel costs alone if every flight didn't have to sit for 5-10 mins to get parked.
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See...the key to operating in and out of IAD successfully is what we on the Expressjet CRJ side refer to as "the art of not giving a crap"

Obviously that does not apply to safety related items. But for everything else. We've tried calling over the radio. We've tried complaining through the appropriate channels...nothing changes. Nothing changes. Its not worth the increased blood pressure.

And you sound like a grade A • having a coronary over ops freq because "we're 5 minutes prior to departure, we haven't gotten fuel, we haven't gotten commissary, what kind of operation are we running here!?!?!?"

Just not worth it. Things aren't going to change. We've tried.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
See...the key to operating in and out of IAD successfully is what we on the Expressjet CRJ side refer to as "the art of not giving a crap"

Obviously that does not apply to safety related items. But for everything else. We've tried calling over the radio. We've tried complaining through the appropriate channels...nothing changes. Nothing changes. Its not worth the increased blood pressure.

And you sound like a grade A having a coronary over ops freq because "we're 5 minutes prior to departure, we haven't gotten fuel, we haven't gotten commissary, what kind of operation are we running here!?!?!?"

Just not worth it. Things aren't going to change. We've tried.
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Amen brotha!

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Screaming_Emu said:
See...the key to operating in and out of IAD successfully is what we on the Expressjet CRJ side refer to as "the art of not giving a crap".
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No kidding, when my crews on the ERJ side call. It usually goes.... "Hey can you send our paperwork to printer XXX? The agents here don't know how to speak English and says they don't have time to print our stuff". After enough calls I've started making fun of our Dulles Ops in the office. Worst hub in the system bar none. Air Swissconsin....
 
Screaming_Emu said:
See...the key to operating in and out of IAD successfully is what we on the Expressjet CRJ side refer to as "the art of not giving a crap"

Obviously that does not apply to safety related items. But for everything else. We've tried calling over the radio. We've tried complaining through the appropriate channels...nothing changes. Nothing changes. Its not worth the increased blood pressure.

And you sound like a grade A having a coronary over ops freq because "we're 5 minutes prior to departure, we haven't gotten fuel, we haven't gotten commissary, what kind of operation are we running here!?!?!?"

Just not worth it. Things aren't going to change. We've tried.
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I wholeheartedly agree with this on 13 of 14 legs. Spending the last part of the 14th in the box at ORD, though, is not the time or place to remain calm when you see your ride home sitting at the gate.
 
Nice to see IAD hasn't changed at all on the Ramp. I had the same problems there in Saab with agents and rampers.

The tug driver a wing right into a E gate window, despite the crew screaming on the intercomm to stop and waiving their hands to stop.

A ramper also melted part of the Saab's PDU because he couldn't read the locked out tag not to use the GPU. I never saw a Saab's displays get so bright, lol

The agents reversed the pax for CRW and CHS.

Tug driver got 90 degrees to an RJ and floored, collapsing the nose gear

We has Saab service with 35 gallons of blue juice not 3.5 gallons
 
Shiek Yiboudi said:
United could save millions a year in fuel costs alone if every flight didn't have to sit for 5-10 mins to get parked.
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I saw the same stuff happen at OKC. Our manager at F9 would have killed us if our plane had to wait even a second for us to show up. Of course, that's all easy to do when you have one gate and only 3 flights a day on our busiest of days.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
See...the key to operating in and out of IAD successfully is what we on the Expressjet CRJ side refer to as "the art of not giving a crap"

Obviously that does not apply to safety related items. But for everything else. We've tried calling over the radio. We've tried complaining through the appropriate channels...nothing changes. Nothing changes. Its not worth the increased blood pressure.

And you sound like a grade A having a coronary over ops freq because "we're 5 minutes prior to departure, we haven't gotten fuel, we haven't gotten commissary, what kind of operation are we running here!?!?!?"

Just not worth it. Things aren't going to change. We've tried.
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My favorite when calling our out time "what's the delay code?" Uhh, we got fuel 5 minutes before departure even though we sat on the ground for 50 minutes and you boarded us 5 minutes after departure..."

And then they change the delay to "Crew Checklist"
 
I found it works best when you block every thing up, turn on the landing lights, and pull out a book. When you bring the entire alley to a stop, eventually they get to you
 
Jon Gandy said:
My only question is...IAD is HUGE! With all of that real estate, how does this happen?
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The amount real estate at times is less than the amount of metal on the ground. I have seen it 4 or 5 deep in the alley's and spots an also been #30 in line for the runway. Always fun getting to about #5 for takeoff and then having to go back to the gate for more gas...
 
Bandit_Driver said:
Nice to see IAD hasn't changed at all on the Ramp. I had the same problems there in Saab with agents and rampers.

The tug driver a wing right into a E gate window, despite the crew screaming on the intercomm to stop and waiving their hands to stop.

A ramper also melted part of the Saab's PDU because he couldn't read the locked out tag not to use the GPU. I never saw a Saab's displays get so bright, lol

The agents reversed the pax for CRW and CHS.

Tug driver got 90 degrees to an RJ and floored, collapsing the nose gear

We has Saab service with 35 gallons of blue juice not 3.5 gallons
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My former United Express ramp has a 30-day "No Aircraft Damage Challenge" going on right now, which will end in a pizza party if successful. Probably won't. Its just United's supervision of United Express contractors, they don't care. At all. One horrible rainy morning I sent 2 flights in a row out missing 40+ bags, all other gates were doing the same. When United decided to get involved, I sent a flight out to ABQ missing 12 bags. They get on the radio demanding to know why I left 12 bags behind. I laughed hysterically into the radio and said "Lady, I sent the last one out missing 42 and you're asking why I didn't hold for 12?". The United manager is aghast, finds me, I tell her she has no authority over me and she can talk to my supervisor. She looks for 40 minutes, can't find a supervisor(they're great at hiding), gives up. And that was the first and last time United management ever set foot on our ramp. And we're "better" than IAD Air Wisconsin. So imagine that.

If you disconnect yourself from the operation and don't care at all about anything beyond your doing your own job, it become absolutely hilarious watching an airline hub try to function.
 
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