Another Caravan engine failure

If you "Hear an explosion" from a pt6, why the green beans would you attempt a re-start? That's asking for trouble. I am going to assume the little needles that indicate the spinni thing inside says "uh uh".
 
If you "Hear an explosion" from a pt6, why the green beans would you attempt a re-start?

Why?

If you only have one engine, you take care of the pilot, airframe, and engine in that order. I would happily fry a hot section to get to a better landing site. Hot sections are cheap, airframes and pilots are not.

We had a pilot on that run (who is also a JC member) fly into some freezing rain that forced him down even though he was past the redline on Tq and T5. Management gave him a pat on the back and sent the engine back to the shop for an overhaul.

Even an engine fire did not merit an immediate shutdown, you did some trouble shooting to make sure you did not have a false alarm before securing the engine.
 
Why?

If you only have one engine, you take care of the pilot, airframe, and engine in that order. I would happily fry a hot section to get to a better landing site. Hot sections are cheap, airframes and pilots are not.

We had a pilot on that run (who is also a JC member) fly into some freezing rain that forced him down even though he was past the redline on Tq and T5. Management gave him a pat on the back and sent the engine back to the shop for an overhaul.

Even an engine fire did not merit an immediate shutdown, you did some trouble shooting to make sure you did not have a false alarm before securing the engine.

Because, if you are flying along, and hear the engine grenade (which they seem to be doing with increasing frequency) which generally means the gas generator has locked solid. Hitting the starter at point will be like shorting out the battery. You stand to heat (red hot) any of those heavy duty cables that run between the battery, solenoids, and starter. So now you have a nice burning smell to accompany you in your glide. If the engine puked oil, you stand a moderate chance of lighting that off as well. To say nothing of losing your battery, and thus nav/com. Other than that, yeah, no problem. :)

Now, if it is showing any Ng, then go for it, you have little to lose. If it went out with a bang, and Ng went right to zero, you have a lot more to lose. An engine that has not locked will show 5% or more in the glide.
 
Because, if you are flying along, and hear the engine grenade (which they seem to be doing with increasing frequency) which generally means the gas generator has locked solid. Hitting the starter at point will be like shorting out the battery. You stand to heat (red hot) any of those heavy duty cables that run between the battery, solenoids, and starter. So now you have a nice burning smell to accompany you in your glide. If the engine puked oil, you stand a moderate chance of lighting that off as well. To say nothing of losing your battery, and thus nav/com. Other than that, yeah, no problem. :)

Now, if it is showing any Ng, then go for it, you have little to lose. If it went out with a bang, and Ng went right to zero, you have a lot more to lose. An engine that has not locked will show 5% or more in the glide.

You do realize this is the podunk newspaper of Guymon reporting this right?? lol I wouldn't take their technical account of the way things went down too seriously. Same goes for the beaver detachment. :bounce:
 
Because, if you are flying along, and hear the engine grenade (which they seem to be doing with increasing frequency) which generally means the gas generator has locked solid. Hitting the starter at point will be like shorting out the battery. You stand to heat (red hot) any of those heavy duty cables that run between the battery, solenoids, and starter. So now you have a nice burning smell to accompany you in your glide. If the engine puked oil, you stand a moderate chance of lighting that off as well. To say nothing of losing your battery, and thus nav/com. Other than that, yeah, no problem. :)

Now, if it is showing any Ng, then go for it, you have little to lose. If it went out with a bang, and Ng went right to zero, you have a lot more to lose. An engine that has not locked will show 5% or more in the glide.
Lets try and think through all that in the heat of the moment.
 
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I swear I've hung out with that guy down in SAT.
Any chance any Martinaire guys know if he was the SAT standby pilot doing Corpus/EaglePass/Del Rio standby?
 
Lets try and think through all that in the heat of the moment.
Should be second nature. I dunno, maybe it's my background, but I feel strongly anyone sitting in the seat should know that intuitively and natively.

Pretty simple to comprehend: Stalled starter motor = LOTS of current.
 
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