Stupid Cape Air / BOS question

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I can haz stupid question. Cape air is one of the few aviation organizations that I'd be really keen to fly for, so I jumped at the opportunity to book a flight from BOS to HYA when I visit in a couple of weeks, instead of taking the P&B. (Even though I'll have to double my costs and go through ACK)

However, my flight (VX 350) is scheduled to arrive at 15:30, and the 9K flight to depart at 16:10. I'm not very familiar with BOS -- Does this seem reasonably achievable? Will I need to go through security again?

Really excited to see the operation firsthand.

-Fox
(Sorry for wasting time/space with this thread. I really wasn't sure where else I might be able to get an answer, though.)
 
Acrofox said:
However, my flight (VX 350) is scheduled to arrive at 15:30, and the 9K flight to depart at 16:10. I'm not very familiar with BOS -- Does this seem reasonably achievable? Will I need to go through security again?
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You need to change terminals, B to C I think. It is a bit of a hike, Logan was never really set up to have the terminals connected. There is (finally) a pedestrian bridge, so you can go to the central garage from every terminal, and walk to each terminal assuming you don't mind visiting the garage in the process. I would probably just hop on one of the many buses that stop at every terminal (like any of the rental car or MBTA shuttles).

You'll need to do security again too.

Cutting it close, but you will probably make it if you hustle. Don't check bags, you almost certainly won't make it. Try to sit up front in the Cessna, view is great :)
 
Why don't you call Cape Air? Their whole philosophy is customer service, so I'm sure they'll be able to tell you, and help you if they don't think it will work.
 
VX is at the far end of B, very close to C. You can walk from the gate to C security in less than five minutes. Cape is out of gate 25 or so which is a 2-3 minute walk after security (to your right). Figure 8 minutes walking and then security is the wild card unknown.
 
Thanks a bunch, fellas. That's exactly what I was looking for!

As for ending up in the front seat -- That'd be awesome, but I'm not sure how the seating works -- I suppose I'll have to just wish real hard. ;> I'm certainly not going to be one of those douchebags who says "Hey, I'm a pilot! See my ray-bans and leather jacket? Can I sit up front?" (As much as I'd love the view)

~Fox
 
Acrofox said:
Thanks a bunch, fellas. That's exactly what I was looking for!

As for ending up in the front seat -- That'd be awesome, but I'm not sure how the seating works -- I suppose I'll have to just wish real hard. ;> I'm certainly not going to be one of those douchebags who says "Hey, I'm a pilot! See my ray-bans and leather jacket? Can I sit up front?" (As much as I'd love the view)

~Fox
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I would say that you should definitely ask to sit up front. You mentioned this being one of the aviation jobs that you would love to have so I would look at this as a networking opportunity. Obviously you shouldn't be a • about it, but this industry is all about who you know. The pilot on that plane may just be able to help get you in the company later on. Even if he can't help you out, at least you gave it an effort. Oh and of course you got a great view during the flight :)
 
I second the networking opportunity angle. You may only get one shot at taking a shot at it, and you'll sit in the back wishing you had worked "just a little harder" getting up front. Seize the opportunity for what it is; a chance to meet someone who you can relate to, and could mutually benefit each other at some point in life.
 
I'm a little wary of doing that. If I was nearer hiring mins, it could be a good conversation. At 410 hours, I don't want to waste anyone's time ...yet.

Now, that said, I also have a different view of networking than most people seem to these days; I've always hated the concept of "casual" networking -- I've been "networking" in the technology industry for twenty years, and my "network" consists of friends, people I've worked with, people whose competencies or intelligence I can vouch for, and therefore people I know I can call on, reference, help out, or pass leads to.

The concept of "casual" networking is something that seems alien to me, and actually makes me a little leery of people's interests when they want to "touch base".

Also, I can't imagine how to start that conversation. Maybe I'm just bad at this! ^.^

-Fox
 
You're not wasting anyone's time, Fox! If someone wants to chat me up about the job, experience doesn't cross my mind unless they ask about qualifications or something they say makes me wanna ask where they're "at".
 
Don't be bashful! Ask to sit up front. Mention your next aviation goal, no matter how small you think it is now. I know I never mind talking flying with another pilot, and I never think of someone as "just a private pilot," or "just a guy working on his ratings." The pilot just may offer you his or her contact information with the magic words, "let me know when you're ready to come to *** job." I think most pilots want to help each other out; why else would we belong to so many forums?
 
Like everyone has said above, just ask. I used to have pilots bring headsets along and plug in, even.
 
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Good chance your trans-con flight will be in ahead of schedule anyway as long as it departs on time. Just ask to talk with the captain if possible, tell him/her you are interested in the company as a possible future career destination and would like to learn about the type of flying and operation they run. Good folks at Cape Air, whats the worst that can happen by just asking??!! As far as having too few hrs, I know someone who interviewed there recently with 500hrs for an FO spot.
 
dasleben said:
Like everyone has said above, just ask. I used to have pilots bring headsets along and plug in, even.
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Yep, this.

Anyone who asks to sit up front gets to, if I'm flying.

Wait, I take that back. I denied it to one guy. But only because he spazzed out on a gate agent, was obviously not right in the head, THEN asked to sit up front. I said no way. When I saw him in person, I was glad I denied it. He looked like a meth-addicted version of Kip from Napoleon Dynamite. Ended up sitting behind me. The whole flight I was just waiting for him to pull off his shoelaces and start choking me out.

But anyway...MOST people who ask to sit up front are super cool. I've met some experienced corporate/fractional/major airline guys, along with a bunch of low time pilots in training by letting them come up. Either way, they're fun to talk to.
 
jrh said:
Yep, this.

Anyone who asks to sit up front gets to, if I'm flying.

Wait, I take that back. I denied it to one guy. But only because he spazzed out on a gate agent, was obviously not right in the head, THEN asked to sit up front. I said no way. When I saw him in person, I was glad I denied it. He looked like a meth-addicted version of Kip from Napoleon Dynamite. Ended up sitting behind me. The whole flight I was just waiting for him to pull off his shoelaces and start choking me out.

But anyway...MOST people who ask to sit up front are super cool. I've met some experienced corporate/fractional/major airline guys, along with a bunch of low time pilots in training by letting them come up. Either way, they're fun to talk to.
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I once had someone in the right seat on a STX-SJU leg pull out a Q'uran and start praying out loud. Caught my attention, but he was just a regular guy excited to be up front, who happened to have prayer time in the middle of our flight. :)
 
Acrofox said:
I'm certainly not going to be one of those douchebags who says "Hey, I'm a pilot! See my ray-bans and leather jacket? Can I sit up front?" (As much as I'd love the view)

~Fox
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Love it haha. Not gonna lie, there are some folks here that 'need their personal space' and will leave the copilot seat vacant unless necessary, though I would say that's a minority. Seriously doesn't hurt to just ask though, most times we try to make it so there is very little restriction on who has to to sit where but on occasion we do have to 'assign' seats for w&b, but again just ask. But please please please don't back seat drive (not saying you will...) I never mind having people sit up front, and I'll gladly answer questions if time permits and it's a safe time to do so, but that has to be one of my biggest pet peeves.
 
It's just little things that happen once in a while, the common example is when some people are interested and ask what altitude we'll be flying at. Then plans change en route and I'll decide to fly at a different altitude so they'll point out that my altitude is 'off '. Or the frequent fliers that question a route of flight because it's a different way they went last time. One pilot here had some ask them if they knew where they were going because they were flying the IFR route from BOS to ACK which takes you over Provincetown as opposed to VFR direct. Fun little things like that which happen on occasion.
 
Speedbird172 said:
It's just little things that happen once in a while, the common example is when some people are interested and ask what altitude we'll be flying at. Then plans change en route and I'll decide to fly at a different altitude so they'll point out that my altitude is 'off '. Or the frequent fliers that question a route of flight because it's a different way they went last time. One pilot here had some ask them if they knew where they were going because they were flying the IFR route from BOS to ACK which takes you over Provincetown as opposed to VFR direct. Fun little things like that which happen on occasion.
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Now I know who to troll while in street clothes. :D

"Hey, you forgot to extend the flaps for takeoff."
 
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