Jason Schappert

I just saw today that my wholesale distributor is carrying a few books that he put out. The titles looked fluffy to me, stuff like "How to Pass Your Checkride" or something like that... nothing too exciting and I expect there's not much new he's bringing to the table, but that's just an assumption and you know what they say about assumptions!

I've seen a few of his youtube videos and thought they were OK. I give credit to anyone who wants to go to the effort to think up topics, film demonstrations, edit it down into a nice presentation, and then put it out there for free for all the world's critics to see. I'd definitely vet the technical content of any particular video before recommending it to a student though.
 
will_fly_for_bandwith said:
According to him safety pilot time can only be logged as SIC. You make your own judgment.
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Yeah, good luck splanin' that at an interview.

He talks about logging SIC..... "Or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted."

That's BS.... Says the same thing under logging PIC
 
flyingbum said:
Yeah, good luck splanin' that at an interview.
He talks about logging SIC..... "Or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted."
That's BS.... Says the same thing under logging PIC
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I don't think that you're asserting that safety pilot can't be logged as SIC, but just to be sure: Safety pilot time can and should be logged as SIC, unless the safety pilot was the agreed-upon PIC, in which case both parties may log the time as PIC.

~Fox
 
His online ground school (available for Private Pilot, only) - is expensive.
 
Fly_Unity said:
A lot of instructors are like this, yet they dont realize until they watch themselves on video.
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I imagine there are. I'm sure if he'd just focus on the subject he'd be fine, but he keeps going off on all these tangents and never quite gets the message across.
 
Acrofox said:
I don't think that you're asserting that safety pilot can't be logged as SIC, but just to be sure: Safety pilot time can and should be logged as SIC, unless the safety pilot was the agreed-upon PIC, in which case both parties may log the time as PIC.

~Fox
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I got a question about that. What have you experienced/heard of others experience with interviews and safety pilot time?

So far I have heard that most 121 ops won't count it.
 
Watching yourself on video is brutally good for self-assessment and improvement, that is after you get over being depressed at how awful you are. Used to make band members watch themselves on video and I'd literally see people crying after watching themselves, brutal.
 
flyingbum said:
I got a question about that. What have you experienced/heard of others experience with interviews and safety pilot time?

So far I have heard that most 121 ops won't count it.
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The capricious nature of what 121 outfits care about doesn't concern me one whit. They are not the authorities on what to log. As to what I've experienced -- nothing. What I've heard? All sorts of wonky stories about glider time being counted at half rate, safety pilot time being counted, safety pilot time not being counted, etc. I don't keep track, honestly. Not my game.

The FAA says to log safety pilot time as either SIC or PIC, depending on who has overall authority for the flight, and to include it in total time. If 121 operators don't like my 1.6 hours of safety pilot SIC and 2.2 hours of safety pilot PIC time ... well, it doesn't matter much, as I don't intend to fly for one!

~Fox
 
Acrofox said:
I don't think that you're asserting that safety pilot can't be logged as SIC, but just to be sure: Safety pilot time can and should be logged as SIC, unless the safety pilot was the agreed-upon PIC, in which case both parties may log the time as PIC.

~Fox
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Source? To be honest the last part of that statement doesn't make any sense.
 
I'm glad you posted that, because It contains prettty much all the FARs I was going to reference. Basically, the long and short of it is that you can and should log PIC (and the other appropriate logbook categories) time only for the time that the other pilot is under the hood (no landings, and no X/C). Ignoring the later 135 and 121 related questions, the intrepretation answers questions one and two in exactly the same way. Therefore, the choice is yours to log the time as SIC or PIC. Obviously, you would want to log PIC time, as it is more valuable. In fact, if a person came to me to interview for ANY aviation job, and this scenario came up, I would have two concerns. First, I would question the quality of the time if there was a considerable amount of safety pilot time, as to me that would indicate that the candidate and a buddy went and flew circles while "wearing a hood." And, second, if they had logged it SIC when they could have logged PIC would make me question their sanity...

Basically, in this scenario, you have to look at the intent of the regs. I would hazard a guess that the original letter, that the interpretation was written in response to, was submitted by someone that was hoping to cheat the system in some way, and build X/C time as a safety pilot. You also have to look at the intent of the SIC position. The whole purpose of the SIC regs is for aircraft that are type rated for more than one pilot, or the cases where 135 or 121 regs require an SIC in what would normally be a single pilot airplane. Those SICs log the entire flight (including X/C time) as they are required for the whole flight. It is not intended for the guy that is sitting safety pilot in his buddies skychicken while they shoot some approaches.

A third, and final note... I would argue that a safety pilot is more technically a pilot in command, as they are directly responsible for the safety of the flight (91.3a). For instance, if a safety pilot sees another aircraft nearby, they are required to inform the other pilot or grab the controls and maneuver away depending on the severity of the situation.
 
That's a bit oversimplified. Just because it's technically possible to log PIC as safety pilot, doesn't mean everyone "should". The only way you get to log PIC time as safety pilot is if you have agreed to act as PIC, which means you're effectively the captain and decision maker for that flight. Lets say I'm a pilot, I own my own Bonanza and I like to go fly approaches a couple hours per month for proficiency. I'm a nice guy so I ask a local certificated kid if he wants to ride along as safety pilot because I know he'd like it and he can log some time. This kids got no Bonanza experience and 100 hours total time. He is not acting as PIC, he doesn't get to log it as PIC, but he'd be pretty dumb not to take it as SIC and bump up his total time.
 
flyingbum said:
I got a question about that. What have you experienced/heard of others experience with interviews and safety pilot time?

So far I have heard that most 121 ops won't count it.
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Three 121 interviews, not a single question was asked about it...


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