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TUCKnTRUCK said:
lynx had significantly lower utilization than Colgan. Colgan lead the Q operators in 2010 by a fair amount... The Colgan q frequently had months with 99%+ controllable.

The one I poked around in, was, torn up. The sky service guy tearing it apart for retrofit said it was a mess.. Was 2 weeks beyond projected date still waiting on parts.

Lynx paid for the fancy stuff up front, but didn't keep up with it. Fuel oil exchanger valves, seat mods, supplements, the "non hardened" compressors, pre mod apu's. Etc. I don't believe they were the enhanced high gross versions either.

If the asset transfer is too transparent, the union can, ( and I'm guessing Bc it's RAH) would make a case.
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Fact Check. Colgan showed a dispatch reliability of 97.7% over 2009-2010 period where Lynx performed a 98.6% over the same period. During that same time Colgan operated 11.7 duty hours per airplane, 6 cycles, and 6.1 fllight hours respectively. Lynx showed during the same period 13.4 duty hours, 6.8 cycles with 7.1 flight hours per airplane. I concede Colgan did have slightly a better completition factor but I'm sure Lynx mountain ops could play a role in that.

Lynx had quite a good operation going on. The question will be, did Republic keep the talent Lynx had who had the necessary DHC8 experience. I'm guessing no. The new Q400 program will be the typical republic bare bones screw job with religious undertones
 
Trip7 said:
When you get hired you will put your bid in and your base/aircraft will be assigned in seniority order based on vacanies
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Nope. One can apply and be hired strictly for the Q in Denver and know from day 1. The CA slots will be open to any of our FO's on any certificate, but the current FO's will not be sliding over to this aircraft. Just another screw job with our toilet paper contract.

Now, this doesn't mean that these new hire FO's won't be displaced to another Q base as the company sees fit. Sewark anyone??
 
Kingairer said:
Just to pass it along..Weve been told, No Street Capts for these positions.
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That's good for your guys. I wonder if they decided to throw you a bone in an effort to influence your FOs: see we can have growth if you don't press for a good contract. To fly the dash again out of denver makes me want to apply, but if its going to be Lynx payrates I dunno if I can survive.

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There is a grievance in on the pay rate. No way should they be able to get away with continuing that rate. But if they can argue how many seats are on a plane...anything is up for grabs with the RLA.
 
So does anyone know what pay rates these will be flow under? As someone in the furlough range at 9E with only a year in I'm considering...
 
Didn't even think to look up if Lynx was still on there.

Well back to the drawing board I suppose.
 
MusketeerMan said:
Nope. One can apply and be hired strictly for the Q in Denver and know from day 1. The CA slots will be open to any of our FO's on any certificate, but the current FO's will not be sliding over to this aircraft. Just another screw job with our toilet paper contract.
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What kind of • contract is that?
 
I guess theoretically, if you were to get hired on the Q400 as a newhire FO, you could be top on that airplane indefintely since no current pilots can bid to the FO seat as it stands right now, unless there is a displacement bid.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
That's good for your guys. I wonder if they decided to throw you a bone in an effort to influence your FOs: see we can have growth if you don't press for a good contract. To fly the dash again out of denver makes me want to apply, but if its going to be Lynx payrates I dunno if I can survive.

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We contest that using the lynx rates are against our contract, infact, they are no where to be found. So what should happen and what happens, is yet to be determined. FWIW YMMV ETC
 
Kingairer said:
We contest that using the lynx rates are against our contract, infact, they are no where to be found. So what should happen and what happens, is yet to be determined. FWIW YMMV ETC
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From what I understand and per our contract (FWIW), we have to re-enter into negotiations regarding a payrate for this aircraft. The birds can come into service and be flown, but a new payrate must be negotiated or arbitrated within a 10 month period. Full backpay is given from the first hour said pilot flew that aircraft.
 
SigShooter said:
Republic already has the Q400 on it's certificate and an entire program with furloughed Q400 pilots (Lynx). Also, Republic can work with the FAA to obtain approval to provide a "differences" sort of course for current Colgan Q400 pilots hired into Republic with a reduced training footprint. This was done by Colgan in 2005 for Chicago Express pilots on the Saab 340. Reduced sim/ground school.

The Colgan certificate is seen as Voodoo these days.
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Ya gotta love it when someone chimes in, a new member at that, with facts and actual precedent which provides a completely realistic reasoning for RAH to grab these Q's. I heard ya Sig shooter, and great post!..I think you should get yourself an "I told ya so" avatar ready to go.
 
Right on the memo for vacancies, it refers to the payrates being "interim" until new rates are "negotiated or arbitrated".
 
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