I really NEED help!!!

Bob71182

Bob71182

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Is there anyone that knows where I may be able to find a flying job with my low hours? It doesn't matter what type of flying it is or the pay at this point. I have my CPL with MEL and SEL and IFR rated sitting on about 230 hrs.... No plans for a CFI or CFII in the future as I want to avoid flight instruction all together
 
Let me just be the first to suggest that you're going to have a REALLY hard time convincing people that you "really" need help if you're still holding on to the idea that you shouldn't instruct because you "don't want to".

That said, I would look in to pipeline patrol, aerial survey, diver driving, maybe some traffic watch.
 
By saying "no" to your CFI...you're kinda showing me that you won't really do everything to get a flying job.

Everything Boris said I also suggest...although in today's market, those jobs will require between 500-1000 hrs.

side note...when I was at 1004 hrs...I couldn't find anything after doing tons of flying in aerial survey, etc...and I went back and got my CFI
 
liked everyone said CFI. the problem is 230 isnt alot of hours most jobs are 500-600 min.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Let me just be the first to suggest that you're going to have a REALLY hard time convincing people that you "really" need help if you're still holding on to the idea that you shouldn't instruct because you "don't want to".

That said, I would look in to pipeline patrol, aerial survey, diver driving, maybe some traffic watch.
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Pipeline Patrol = 500hr min, Survey = 500hr min Some traffic watch locations = 500hr min.....all for insurance
 
I logged a bunch of time glider towing at 200 hours. BUT, you need tailwheel, and a glider rating, and if it pays anything, it won't be much.

Most low time gigs probably will want you to be a CFI for insurance anyway.
 
I don't think many people will help you unless you help yourself first. Get yourself qualified for a job and the hours will come.
 
Shiner said:
I don't think many people will help you unless you help yourself first. Get yourself qualified for a job and the hours will come.
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I don't think that's true either. A lot of folks around here will help other JC members, no matter how many hours someone has; what he is asking is what is he qualified to do. Basically at this point with insurance requirements it's CFI, diver driver and that's about it.
 
I'm not sure he should CFI. How fair would that be to his students? Look at this point in my (aviation career) I have seen it all. Get a part time job at your local airport FBO, talk to everyone at that airport, you will be amazed how many people I met just bartending that owned single, multi engine pistons, that wanted nothing more than someone to fly with. I see by your picture that you’re not an attractive hot chick, but I have a few old students that are, and started flying corporate jets with your time. You will always hear about insurance this insurance and that, but there are ways around it. Just network as best as you can, online, hanger to hanger...
 
Stomp16 said:
Pipeline Patrol = 500hr min, Survey = 500hr min Some traffic watch locations = 500hr min.....all for insurance
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That's not necessarily true. I didn't want to instruct just like this guy... so I made it happen. The last company I worked for hired a few people a day after they got their SE CPL. Right place, right time.

That said, to the OP, no one is going to help you much at 230 hours. YOU have to take the reins and do everything. Check all the jobs boards 3 times a day or more. Call, call, call, annoy, send resumes, and try your best to meet people that are in a position to help someone in your position out.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/page.cgi?g=Employment/index.html;d=1

I got my first gig at 300 hours by driving to meet a guy 5 hours away, then I got my next at 600 hours with a little networking and more of the above. Not having a CFI eliminates a lot of jobs, so you're going to have to want it a whole lot more. It worked out quite well for me. I built hours faster than any CFI I know, while building lots more real world experience and even got paid significantly more.
 
I can definitely see where Bob71182 is coming from. I really had no desire to flight instruct. I had several flight instructors who clearly viewed the job as "a means to an end" and I definitely felt like I was just their next stepping stone. I also had flight instructors who genuinely enjoyed instructing. I knew that I probably would not enjoy it and I didn't want to be that kind of instructor of other students. I also would not have been able to afford it as I had some rather large bills to pay.

I was fortunate that because of my degree and my A&P license I was able to get a job at 205 hrs. So there are opportunities out there, but you have to keep searching. I'd agree with those who said to hang out at airports and talk to people. You never know who could help you out with a job or maybe at least some flight time until you could get a job.
 
Boskru said:
I can definitely see where Bob71182 is coming from. I really had no desire to flight instruct. I had several flight instructors who clearly viewed the job as "a means to an end" and I definitely felt like I was just their next stepping stone. I also had flight instructors who genuinely enjoyed instructing. I knew that I probably would not enjoy it and I didn't want to be that kind of instructor of other students. I also would not have been able to afford it as I had some rather large bills to pay.
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I agree with yo that there are alot of 'bad' instructors out there that are only there for a time building gig. i knew a guy that had a 60% pass rate and was fine with it. He taught his students check rides he didnt teach them to fly for themselves. it was sad. he and i went quite a few rounds before he ended up getting hired at eagle with just over 500 hours
 
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