brandoncooley92
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Just looked up the GI Bill do all vets get and military people get help or only certain people thanks
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Just looked up the GI Bill do all vets get and military people get help or only certain people thanks
brandoncooley92
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I am asking here because this is a JET CAREER FORM I don't want to go to google where people don't know what there talking about
jerrywhite7
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Very tough to get flying spot in the airforce without ROTC or military aced. Army. . . very easy, although you will fly helicopters . . . Gi Bill just got expanded to pay for flight training . . . I train a few military guys. GI Bill is easy, pay $100 month for your first year. . and you got it!
For the army, if you REALLY want to fly, you can be a warrant officer. . . you dont need college, and your only job is to fly . . . so no command. They have a program called "high school to flight school" ok, it is not a program, but you can do it. But it is a longer commentment of service. . . usually 8 years.
You can also do Airforce reserve, crew a C130 or something (now youre flying around) and do the GI bill, and college. Get out, debt free, have some hours, go to the airlines or 135 or corp and kiss all those hum-ti-ditle guys bye-bye (Emery Riddle).
Or get a loan, (local flight school) and go that way. . (not as good).
As far as ATP, if you do the 90 day program, then you still can not be hired by an airline untill you are 21 . . . so what are you going to do for the remainder of your time? And remember most places want to see that you have been flying consistantly.
DON'T FINANCE! I am paying Sallie Mae $500 a month to have the privilege of flying airplanes. It's not worth it. With the wages you make starting out in this career, you WILL regret financing the training. I sure do. Ask anyone who has finance the training and they will give you the same sentiments.
brandoncooley92
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So did you fly in the military
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
No. AFROTC scholarship paid for college though, engineering. To be honest though, getting an ROTC scholarship or service academy appointment is probably harder than getting a pilot slot.
ryan1234
Desensitized Member
This JET CAREER FORUM has a search function as well...
Google is not a person...and it does not have an opinion... Google can lead to other websites where people have a better perspective on military flying (i.e airwarriors.com for Navy/USMC and baseops.net , wantscheck.com for USAF/ANG/USAFR and other websites for specific military information. Google also leads to websites that are straight from the horse's mouth...
Also as a heads up - everything that every person says on this forum is not the gospel. There is some good advice... but it would be wise to use Google and specific websites (i.e. AFROTC, etc) to find get big picture about everything. It will take a lot of time and effort to make a good decision. Many people have asked the same questions over and over again.
Part of this whole venture into college and flying (military and civilian) involves critical thinking - that is weighing everything that is said here against other resources, challenging information, etc.
Matt13C
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Did you say something? Your image is to distracting.
ryan1234
Desensitized Member
Matt13C
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ryan1234
Desensitized Member
Are you talking about the push towards critical thinking.... or the avatar?
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I'm more talking about you pushing away a guy that's looking for some information that this website allegedly provides.
I say allegedly, because instead of being given some real basic information, you've managed to likely run this poor guy off before he had much of a chance to even figure out WTF was happening around these parts.
You may also notice that there's a military sub forum here that you could have directed him too instead of acting like an ass.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Visiting an ROTC detachment would likely be far more productive than google.
SIUav8er
Narcosis
Youre kidding, right? Why even post if you dont want to answer?
brandoncooley92
Well-Known Member
THANK YOU all i am looking for is some help i have gotten a lot of help but that one guy is a jerk.
WacoFan
Bigly
I would learn to fly really, really well. This is in addition to college (something other than an aviation degree probably). This isn't a smart-assed answer either - learn to fly really well.
If Maggie came to me and said she wanted to fly airplanes, here's what I would do:
Start her in Gliders - she could start this summer because she'll be 14 in December and could get her license. Gliders would just be exceptional to start with - you actually learn to fly that way, and learn what the rudder is for.
Starting a couple months prior to her 16th birthday, I'd put her in a Clip-wing Cub, an Aeronca Champ, Citabria or something (notice no "stock" Cub - I think the "Clip-wing" as well as the Champ or Citabria fly more like a "real" airplane than a stock, 65hp long-wing Cub - just a personal preference). I would get her ready to solo the tail-dragger by her 16th birthday. Pre-solo would involve all required manuevers as well as demonstrating spin recovery. Lots of X-wind landings in the taildragger as well...which would be no problem because she'll already be intimately familiar with what a rudder is by having flown Gliders for two years.
In the run-up to her PPL, I'd have her fly something with enough equipment for Nav/Com - only after she's mastered pilotage and dead reckoning. She first X-countries will be in the minimally equiped machine using those methods. One of them will be to Antique Airfield in Blakesburg, IA. Only after she has done that will she be introduced to the technical wizzardry of the VOR and ADF...maybe a GPS at some point.
Because she'll have a long time between solo at 16 and her 17th birthday, she will do some basic aerobatic study/unusual attitudes work, she will also get checked out in a Waco UPF-7. Obviously no solo can be done due to insurance, but she can master the Waco with an instructor in the front pit. Additionally, I'll buy an instrument equiped C-180 and she will start her instrument rating - so that she can take her PPL and Instrument rides asap after she's 17.
This would give an exceptional start to learing to fly "really, really well". That would be my dream for her if she wanted to fly.
If Maggie came to me and said she wanted to fly airplanes, here's what I would do:
Start her in Gliders - she could start this summer because she'll be 14 in December and could get her license. Gliders would just be exceptional to start with - you actually learn to fly that way, and learn what the rudder is for.
Starting a couple months prior to her 16th birthday, I'd put her in a Clip-wing Cub, an Aeronca Champ, Citabria or something (notice no "stock" Cub - I think the "Clip-wing" as well as the Champ or Citabria fly more like a "real" airplane than a stock, 65hp long-wing Cub - just a personal preference). I would get her ready to solo the tail-dragger by her 16th birthday. Pre-solo would involve all required manuevers as well as demonstrating spin recovery. Lots of X-wind landings in the taildragger as well...which would be no problem because she'll already be intimately familiar with what a rudder is by having flown Gliders for two years.
In the run-up to her PPL, I'd have her fly something with enough equipment for Nav/Com - only after she's mastered pilotage and dead reckoning. She first X-countries will be in the minimally equiped machine using those methods. One of them will be to Antique Airfield in Blakesburg, IA. Only after she has done that will she be introduced to the technical wizzardry of the VOR and ADF...maybe a GPS at some point.
Because she'll have a long time between solo at 16 and her 17th birthday, she will do some basic aerobatic study/unusual attitudes work, she will also get checked out in a Waco UPF-7. Obviously no solo can be done due to insurance, but she can master the Waco with an instructor in the front pit. Additionally, I'll buy an instrument equiped C-180 and she will start her instrument rating - so that she can take her PPL and Instrument rides asap after she's 17.
This would give an exceptional start to learing to fly "really, really well". That would be my dream for her if she wanted to fly.
brandoncooley92
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If you don't want to answer the question with out being a jerk then stop posting on this thread I asked for help not for you to be a jerk So if you don't like what im saying then don't read it and shut the hell up.
WacoFan
Bigly
Just an aside...I understand your frustration here...but if you truly want to get into aviation you may want to develop a little (actually a lot) thicker skin and work on your anger issues. Probably not a great thing to tell a professional pilot to "shut the hell up" when all he's telling you to do is use the search feature.
Jtrain telling him something is maybe a little different - a pro-pilot telling another pro-pilot something. Your job here at JC is to be pleasant, take good responses with the ones that irritate you with the same pleasant manner, and network (which doesn't include the phrase "shut the hell up").
Just food for thought. You are now free to move about the website. "Ding".