Dual Garmin 430s

ASpilot2be

ASpilot2be

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Anybody have any good reading material on using dual G430s? I took a flight the other day in a Seminole with dual 430s and it was intimidating. I would like to have a good understanding of them before I start school in June.
 
ASpilot2be said:
Anybody have any good reading material on using dual G430s? I took a flight the other day in a Seminole with dual 430s and it was intimidating. I would like to have a good understanding of them before I start school in June.
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It's literally just two of the same thing. I think, you're over thinking this big guy. You can set them up in the options to be two separate units or be slaved off each other if memory serves. Other then that, notta...
 
If you learn one you'll learn them both. I'm pretty sure Garmin has a 400 series GPS simulator on their website somewhere. Just learn the different "chapters" and the "pages" within those chapters and you'll be a pro in no time.
 
I still don't know why anybody would outfit an airplane with dual 430s.
I've never flown that way so there might be something obvious I'm missing but I just don't see why.
 
jhugz said:
It's literally just two of the same thing. I think, you're over thinking this big guy. You can set them up in the options to be two separate units or be slaved off each other if memory serves. Other then that, notta...
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I have zero experience with the 430 at all, so I would like to learn it before I get there. The only GPS I have used is a KLN95. From what I have heard Garmin is easy compared to the KLNs, but I would still like to learn them early.
 
Douglas said:
I still don't know why anybody would outfit an airplane with dual 430s.
I've never flown that way so there might be something obvious I'm missing but I just don't see why.
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It's nice in airplanes with TIS when you can keep one of the screens on the TIS display and the other for nav. Other then that, it is overkill.
 
jhugz said:
It's literally just two of the same thing. I think, you're over thinking this big guy. You can set them up in the options to be two separate units or be slaved off each other if memory serves. Other then that, notta...
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:yeahthat: and...

AviatorGator said:
If you learn one you'll learn them both. I'm pretty sure Garmin has a 400 series GPS simulator on their website somewhere. Just learn the different "chapters" and the "pages" within those chapters and you'll be a pro in no time.
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:yeahthat: and...

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ASpilot2be said:
I have zero experience with the 430 at all, so I would like to learn it before I get there. The only GPS I have used is a KLN95. From what I have heard Garmin is easy compared to the KLNs, but I would still like to learn them early.
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Right on, I assumed you had 430 experience, but we all know what happens...anywhoo. Just download the simulator and play around with it. Teach yourself how to load an approach, make a flightplan, create user way points, and just move throughout the system with some knowledge and you'll be fine. They'll teach you everything else.
 
AviatorGator said:
If you learn one you'll learn them both. I'm pretty sure Garmin has a 400 series GPS simulator on their website somewhere. Just learn the different "chapters" and the "pages" within those chapters and you'll be a pro in no time.
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Thanks. Apparently I cant run the sim on this operating system, so I will read the manual on chapters and pages.
 
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From there is just moving through menus. See if you can go to the airport with a GPU hooked up and play around with them.
 
Dual 430's have tons of advantages. Set one up in raw data, and the other on an approach overlay. Do like James said and have one on TIS, and the other still displaying what ever else you need. Set one up on a map view, and the other on a track view. I can think of a hundred ways to set up dual 430's. I used to fly a 172 that had dual 430's, and the school I got my ratings at had a few airplanes set up that way. It's no more overkill than a G1000 in a 172.
 
ASpilot2be said:
Anybody have any good reading material on using dual G430s? I took a flight the other day in a Seminole with dual 430s and it was intimidating. I would like to have a good understanding of them before I start school in June.
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If you go over to the Garmin website, you can find a free simulator program for the 430/530 series...

VERY HELPFUL and fully functioning simulator.

And FREE
 
Oh yeh, all the way right on the outer nob and all the way left on the internob will show you the closest airports. Great for emergencys. Also if you hold the flop comm button, you will get 121.5 dialed in the primary freq.
 
innovator152 said:
i fly at a flight school where most of the planes have dual 430s, there is no reason to have 2. here are some references
http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/2105_PilotsGuideandReference.pdf
or
http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/GNS430_PilotsGuide.pdf
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That is what I was thinking. I can see TIS being *nice* on a separate screen, but if there is a ever a traffic problem it takes you right to that page anyway.
I'd hope some wouldn't get off course during that minute while the map was shut off.

The cost/benefit of a dual 430 just isn't there in my opinion.

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But on topic - Scooter had good advice. At the two flight schools that I worked at, you could pay to hook up a airplane for an hour and learn the avionics at a reduced price.
 
Learn their interface conventions (big knob, little knob, when to push cursor, clear, enter) then sit with the Garmin simulator and figure out how to make the magic work. That sim is the best thing ever for figuring it out. Also, if I remember correctly, ATP gives you free and unlimited use of the FRASCA FTD, which has a fully functioning 430. Use this to your advantage...

Some of ATP's airplanes (at least one that I've flown) didn't have crossfill (set something in the GPS in one, flight plan copies over to the other) working. It's occasionally annoying when that doesn't work.

Douglas said:
I still don't know why anybody would outfit an airplane with dual 430s.
I've never flown that way so there might be something obvious I'm missing but I just don't see why.
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'Cause there isn't room in the panel for a 530/430 in the Seminole. And some of us have perfectly good primary flight and multifunction displays located front and center, and don't need a big screen in the center stack. Thank you! That'll be $50! ;)
 
I'll look into it further, later...but isn't there some obscure reg/AIM section that says if you're filing IFR with a Single Unit GPS, that you must file a route that keeps you within the service volume of a VOR (incase you loose GPS signal). I seem to recall something about this from the CFI days, we had 172's with the single KLN-94's and that's how their routes had to be filed, but the 182RG and the Seminole you didn't (they had 530/430 or Dual 430's)
 
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