UAL/CAL Arbitrator decision delivered

This may sound ignorant and is in no way meant to flame, but what stops them from just putting United code on the flights?
As M.M. stated, there aren't enough gates in IAH for them to get around this by calling them UAL 70's. They are stuck legally and physically. They have no choice. It was the last round and Rocky was about to go down, he showed Ivan Drago one more punch.
 
MRIVC,
I know some have stated that SKYW will just put CRJ200 on those routes. Meanwhile XJT has plans for shipping quite a great deal of flying up to ORD. I don't imagine SKWY having the spare airframes (200) to cover that flying as they must be dedicated somewhere else. What do you forsee happening? Any word from management? Oops, I guess UAL legal wasn't so right despite their reassertions that this is fully legal. I don't see CRJ200s being successful on all the longer planned routes, IAH-YYZ for example.
 
Funny to see an arbritation case beeing heard within 2 months of a grievance. I took over 2 yrs to get a date for my termination grievance. Oh I forgot I'm a regional pilot, not main line. Equal representation for all. LOL. VIVA LA RJDC
 
Funny to see an arbritation case beeing heard within 2 months of a grievance. I took over 2 yrs to get a date for my termination grievance. Oh I forgot I'm a regional pilot, not main line. Equal representation for all. LOL. VIVA LA RJDC

Actually, it helps when you have wording in your contract that defines major and expedited grievances. But you go on thinking what you want to.
 
So what does SKW do now that this has been decided and in a week (maybe sooner) SKW was going to be doing 70 seat flying out of IAH. Do they have to swap those to 50 seaters, and redo the crews?

Just curious
 
I see lots of loop holes as well. Code share/Star Alliance etc would make this seamless without the CO code.

How exactly do you code share without the use of the CO code?

This ruling is a perfect example of why pilots need ALPA. The resources ALPA brought to fight this violation were immense, and it's a very important victory.
 
Funny to see an arbritation case beeing heard within 2 months of a grievance. I took over 2 yrs to get a date for my termination grievance. Oh I forgot I'm a regional pilot, not main line. Equal representation for all. LOL. VIVA LA RJDC

If you look in Section 1 of your contract, it will contain the same provisions for expediting scope violations as the CAL contract. Some contracts allow for expediting termination grievances also (ours does, for example), but a lot of agreements don't. Apparently yours in one that doesn't. That has nothing to do with mainline vs. regional, it's just a matter of bargaining priorities for your own negotiators and MEC when they bargained your contract.

And in case you haven't heard, the RJDC is already resting in the ash bin of history, right where it belongs.
 
I like the recent scope victory. Our future scope is in the very same office at this minute. Hopefully this, coupled with the Holding Company language from PNCL/Mesaba/Colgan will give us a boost!
 
Definitely great news. Now let's hope the CAL and UAL pilots build on this when they negotiate a joint contract.
 
How exactly do you code share without the use of the CO code?

It wouldn't be as seamless as a straight codeshare, but they could do it using third party Star Alliance codes. As is, there are CO coded *A flights being done by 51+ seat RJs right now.
 
Word on the street is that 70 seaters are still coming to IAH and EWR, they're just going to operate as UAX aircraft.
 
Word on the street is that 70 seaters are still coming to IAH and EWR, they're just going to operate as UAX aircraft.

Well, then it will be the United MEC's turn to go to the mat because I'm pretty certain that their contract prohibits non hub point to point RJ flying.
 
I think they're also up against their limit of 70-seat flying, or at least very close.

This is the more pertinent limit, though with the transfer of XJT aircraft to ORD from IAH and EWR, it seems like UAL is trying to "right size" their regional feed.
 
Pretty sure the -200 can't do Aspen and Telluride?

Interesting to see what UAL does here. I would very much anticipate you still see SKYW 70 seaters in IAH come this month.
 
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