Pilot to TSA: 'No Groping Me and No Naked Photos'

Body scanners unveiled at JFK Airport; Homeland Security Sect. Janet Napolitano doesn't volunteer



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She won't even participate in the shanagins! What a cuss!


"Those who read the images are not actually physically at the gate, so they cannot associate an image with an individual person at all," she said.
"And the machines are set so that no image is retained."
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I thought we went over this one already and found that the images were being saved. The thing that bugs me, is the people who put these into place themselves will never have to go through them. They fly around on private government jets and get "back door" security treatment. I say make them ALL go through these machines, and see how they feel having someone look at their junk.

I would also like to know the long term effects of this, becuase there has to be some kind of re-percutions to a pilot who goes through one of these things on a daily basis. You can't just subject a person to something like this and not open yourself up to legal issues aside fom civil liberties, but more along the lines of health care issues.
 
Yeah you thought the glaucoma rate among pilot/flight crew was already high due to their exposure to radiation from the sun. Just imagine what it will be after 30 years of enjoying the scanner. I guess you could do a start/end flight career photo montage of the images.
 
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Rocky said:
:banghead: When are the American People gonna stand up and revolt....
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Never. It isn't worth it to the average person to deal with. They'd rather just deal with the 'slight inconvenience' than risk missing a flight or deal with trying to change anything. Anyways, if it's supposed to 'improve security', then it must be worth the blatant loss of rights!!1 :rolleyes:

This pilot had a great chance to really get the message out, but apparently he didn't do so well in the interveiw. The main problem is that there isn't a lot any one person can actually do to change these things, so nobody does anything. If you refuse the screenings, the Tub Stacking Agency is not going to say, 'wow, he's right! ok, go ahead.' You're just going to end up not flying. Writing to the gov doesn't work so well either, as it just ends up in a pile on someones desk, or one of the long list of deadlines for changes that the TSA has failed to meet.

Sad, but true. People rolling over and not doing anything as their rights are taken away is going to be the downfall of this country.
 
BeRich said:
Sad, but true. People rolling over and not doing anything as their rights are taken away is going to be the downfall of this country.
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I get your point, but I think this is one of those rights that isn't worth fighting for, yet. When it starts to spill over into everyday life, then it will be worth fighting for for the person who doesn't fly on a daily basis.
 
mshunter said:
I get your point, but I think this is one of those rights that isn't worth fighting for, yet. When it starts to spill over into everyday life, then it will be worth fighting for for the person who doesn't fly on a daily basis.
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I agree. Most people don't care enough yet to do anything. The problem is, eventually, it will spill over into everyday life, and hopefully it won't be to late to do anything.
 
mshunter said:
I get your point, but I think this is one of those rights that isn't worth fighting for, yet. When it starts to spill over into everyday life, then it will be worth fighting for for the person who doesn't fly on a daily basis.
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I'm not saying TSA screenings are the Holocaust or anything, but you reminded me of a quote:

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Martin Niemöller
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They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

- Martin Niemöller
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Exactly. Although it might not seem to be worth the hassle, eventually people are going to regret giving up these rights.
 
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