dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I think you take yourself a little too seriously.
WSJ Article on PSA at CRW
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I think you take yourself a little too seriously.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
Shows how much you know.
Boris is one of the more experienced guys around here, definitely one of the sharpest, and maturity wise . . . well, he's managed to see some rough times in the industry and still stick it out and be successful.
Don't take life so personally. It makes you look stupid.
wrxpilot
New Member
No kidding... Doesn't sound like he'd be a good fit in a small corporate flight department, where taking yourself too seriously is NOT going to cut it. Hopefully he enjoys PSA!
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
Hey there dasleben, you may be right or wrong, I do know that any well adjusted individual has some level of "healthy narcissism". I gave some frank advice to a recently unemployed pilot with a good sense of humor, on the difference between humor (which is appreciated) and unprofessional, ill mannered schadenfreude. You're the one making the personal attacks here, and I don't believe we have had the pleasure of meeting.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
I doubt he is anywhere as near as "experienced" as the accident crew.
I wish you guys the best. I hope if you never have an accident, incident or violation, failed checkride, firing, or anything else. If you do, I hope people are supportive of you.
wrxpilot
New Member
What, exactly, is your point?
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
1. That I hope you and every other pilot on this board even my detractors have a flawless and safe career.
2. If you ever have a problem I hope others are respectful of you. It can happen to anybody.
Sorry my English is getting rusty. Time to move on prolly':dunno:
wrxpilot
New Member
Yes, I think most of us here would be in agreement with those points. I can only speak for myself, but there are several links in this accident that could DEFINITELY happen to anybody.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
I agree totally.
Now I am glad to answer any PM further regarding my statements on this thread.:beer:
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Wow, just saw this. For the public record, since you wanted to slam me in public then "take the high road", I fail completely and totally to see how my comment was even remotely related to the skill, decency, competence, shoe size, or favorite color of the crew members or for that matter the price of tea in china. I could understand getting twisty underoos if someone was casting blame or something, but who did that? I'm sure I'll talk about my life with other pilots, too, and I'm sure the guys in question are great guys. Why would you think otherwise? And if you want to respond, PM is fine, whatever.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
mtsu_av8er
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dcramer16
Well-Known Member
Retarded Pilots
What a couple of morons. I hope they have their licenses pulled. They don't deserve to fly.
Transcript: Pilots were musing about sports cars
WASHINGTON – Two pilots were musing about their dream sports car moments before running off a West Virginia runway, according to a cockpit voice recorder transcript.
The transcript released Thursday by the National Transportation Safety Board shows the pilots of US Airways Express Flight 2495 were talking about Corvette convertibles as they prepared for take off from Yeager Airport in Charleston on Jan. 19. Federal Aviation Administration rules prohibit any cockpit conversation during takeoffs and landings that's not directly related to flying the aircraft.
About a minute and a half later, as the plane was speeding down the airport's main runway, there is the sound of a flap handle being pulled followed by an audible warning alerting pilots to a problem with flaps of the Bombardier regional jet. If flaps are not properly positioned, a plane may not have enough lift for takeoff.
The captain immediately tried to abort the takeoff, the transcript shows. The plane the ran off the end of the mountaintop runway, halting only about 100 feet short of the edge of a steep hillside. None of the 30 passengers and three crew members aboard was injured.
The captain, Thomas Morrow, 38, later told investigators he realized the flaps were at the wrong setting and tried to adjust them in the midst of the takeoff.
The accident would probably not have occurred if the flaps had been set properly before takeoff, said Jack Casey, an aviation safety consultant and former airline pilot.
"This is another complacency case," Casey said. "These are guys (pilots) who do this day in and day out. They are talking about sports cars instead of paying attention to what they are doing."
The plane came to rest in an area of spongy, lightweight concrete material, a relatively new safety improvement installed to halt runaway planes.
FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt has credited the concrete material, known as an "engineered material arresting system," with preventing a tragedy in Charleston.
The FAA has been working for more than a decade on installing the arresting systems at airports. The first system was installed at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York in 1996. Thirty U.S. airports now have the systems and four more are expected to finish installing systems this year, according to the FAA.
Flight 2495 was operated by regional air carrier PSA Airlines Inc. of Vandalia, Ohio, which is owned by US Airways.
The NTSB released only factual evidence gathered in its investigation of the runway overrun, drawing no conclusions. However, the board has questioned over the past year whether regional air carriers are held by FAA to the same level of safety as mainline carriers. The issue arose after an airline crash last year near Buffalo, N.Y., in which all 49 people aboard and a man on the ground were killed. The flight was operated by a regional airline for Continental Airlines.
The captain and first officer of that flight, who were preparing to land, violated FAA's rule against extraneous conversation. The purpose of the rule is to prevent pilots from becoming distracted.
Babbitt has been campaigning since then to raise pilot awareness about the need to adhere to regulations, especially the rule on extraneous conversations.
The circumstances of the Charleston accident are likely to be raised at a three-day public hearing the safety board has scheduled for next month on pilot and air traffic controller professionalism.
What a couple of morons. I hope they have their licenses pulled. They don't deserve to fly.
Transcript: Pilots were musing about sports cars
WASHINGTON – Two pilots were musing about their dream sports car moments before running off a West Virginia runway, according to a cockpit voice recorder transcript.
The transcript released Thursday by the National Transportation Safety Board shows the pilots of US Airways Express Flight 2495 were talking about Corvette convertibles as they prepared for take off from Yeager Airport in Charleston on Jan. 19. Federal Aviation Administration rules prohibit any cockpit conversation during takeoffs and landings that's not directly related to flying the aircraft.
About a minute and a half later, as the plane was speeding down the airport's main runway, there is the sound of a flap handle being pulled followed by an audible warning alerting pilots to a problem with flaps of the Bombardier regional jet. If flaps are not properly positioned, a plane may not have enough lift for takeoff.
The captain immediately tried to abort the takeoff, the transcript shows. The plane the ran off the end of the mountaintop runway, halting only about 100 feet short of the edge of a steep hillside. None of the 30 passengers and three crew members aboard was injured.
The captain, Thomas Morrow, 38, later told investigators he realized the flaps were at the wrong setting and tried to adjust them in the midst of the takeoff.
The accident would probably not have occurred if the flaps had been set properly before takeoff, said Jack Casey, an aviation safety consultant and former airline pilot.
"This is another complacency case," Casey said. "These are guys (pilots) who do this day in and day out. They are talking about sports cars instead of paying attention to what they are doing."
The plane came to rest in an area of spongy, lightweight concrete material, a relatively new safety improvement installed to halt runaway planes.
FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt has credited the concrete material, known as an "engineered material arresting system," with preventing a tragedy in Charleston.
The FAA has been working for more than a decade on installing the arresting systems at airports. The first system was installed at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York in 1996. Thirty U.S. airports now have the systems and four more are expected to finish installing systems this year, according to the FAA.
Flight 2495 was operated by regional air carrier PSA Airlines Inc. of Vandalia, Ohio, which is owned by US Airways.
The NTSB released only factual evidence gathered in its investigation of the runway overrun, drawing no conclusions. However, the board has questioned over the past year whether regional air carriers are held by FAA to the same level of safety as mainline carriers. The issue arose after an airline crash last year near Buffalo, N.Y., in which all 49 people aboard and a man on the ground were killed. The flight was operated by a regional airline for Continental Airlines.
The captain and first officer of that flight, who were preparing to land, violated FAA's rule against extraneous conversation. The purpose of the rule is to prevent pilots from becoming distracted.
Babbitt has been campaigning since then to raise pilot awareness about the need to adhere to regulations, especially the rule on extraneous conversations.
The circumstances of the Charleston accident are likely to be raised at a three-day public hearing the safety board has scheduled for next month on pilot and air traffic controller professionalism.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
That is ignorant statement or rhetorical question,is not really worth a response. The captain has more years 121 experience out of CRJs than in them. That is a matter of public record.
I don't get into this childish, 135 vs crj debates. Most of my time is military side sitting anyway, and there are a heck of a lot of young hotshots on here that I am sure are way more bad-assed pilots than am I. A lot of people with complexes here that I am years beyond.
I can't help it that they can't fly a sim or don't want to, and have some complex with their station in life. Take away all the accident Captain's CRJ time in his 11 yrs 121 and he has more experience than Boris Badenov. Your statement that Boris is one of the most experience guys here, really says that there are more wannabes that post here on JC than long term professionals.
Peace.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Completely out of line.
If you're going to slam other people on this board, at least tell us your experience level before your credibility goes to zero.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
Re: Retarded Pilots
I've talked about the Captains love of cars on several flights, but like this one, not on the roll. Again, hope this never happens to anyone here, but I regret any emotional energy I felt for you in your ad nauseum frustrated posts on your job situation.
Did you get the part that there was a delay and the parking brake was set? Did you even read the CVR recording? Have you entered the discussion in the big boys thread, to talk about it?
I've talked about the Captains love of cars on several flights, but like this one, not on the roll. Again, hope this never happens to anyone here, but I regret any emotional energy I felt for you in your ad nauseum frustrated posts on your job situation.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
Wasn't intended as a slam. Sorry, but I disagree that individual is one of the most experienced dudes on the block nor am I for that matter.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Never said he was. I'm not defending Boris...he's a big boy who can fight his own battles. However, you did just slam the entire JC community, did you not?