vheissu
Well-Known Member
Sure didn't take long. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_bi_ge/plane_into_home_lawsuit
And now it starts. First lawsuit over 3407
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v1valarob
Well-Known Member
Besides the fact that there hasnt been a cause yet, I dont see how they could win on ANY of the claims.
Deice boots have been around for how long and work successfully?
How can you prove that training is inadequate? Colgan, I assume, follows a list of guidelines set forth by the FAA, the training program is approved by the FAA. If your going to sue Colgan, you might as well throw the FAA in there as well.
As for the autopilot, the crew was following company SOPs, which are signed off by the FAA. Again, put the FAA in the lawsuit.
Money mooching mother ####ers. Im sorry for their loss, but this is a joke.
And that picture on the news site, thats not even a Q400!!!!!! Im guessing its an xjt erj.
Deice boots have been around for how long and work successfully?
How can you prove that training is inadequate? Colgan, I assume, follows a list of guidelines set forth by the FAA, the training program is approved by the FAA. If your going to sue Colgan, you might as well throw the FAA in there as well.
As for the autopilot, the crew was following company SOPs, which are signed off by the FAA. Again, put the FAA in the lawsuit.
Money mooching mother ####ers. Im sorry for their loss, but this is a joke.
And that picture on the news site, thats not even a Q400!!!!!! Im guessing its an xjt erj.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Just a guess - and one of our resident lawyers oughta speak up, but I'm guessing the following:
Dunno, though. Just a guess, like I said.
- Cases filed early get heard first
- They name as many possible things as they can in the suit - cast the net wide, as it were, and will peel off non-starters as information comes out.
Dunno, though. Just a guess, like I said.
MusketeerMan
Well-Known Member
This shouldn't surprise anyone...I'm sure every family of the crash victims have been contacted by numerous attorneys.
Murdoughnut
Well sized member
Let's say you put your wife on a bus - and due to the fault of the bus driver, the bus crashes, killing your wife. Wouldn't you sue?
Now that being said, it seems very early to me - I'm surprised they're starting so quickly. And my analogy in no way was meant to suggest the 3407 crew was at fault. But there's a difference between people looking to make money, and people looking to be compensated for the loss of a loved one.
There will be lawsuits over this. There are lawsuits over pretty much every accident and it will always be that way.
The analogy of 'casting the net' is pretty accurate, name every possible person/organization/company in the hopes of snagging as many as you can....
Exactly what happened remains to be seen. We'll have to wait for the official reports from the NTSB for that.
The analogy of 'casting the net' is pretty accurate, name every possible person/organization/company in the hopes of snagging as many as you can....
Exactly what happened remains to be seen. We'll have to wait for the official reports from the NTSB for that.
contactground.9
Banned
Don't they all get money anyway, for services and such. That should be enough. By making lawsuits against the companies they are putting a price on human life.
If it were punitive fines toward the company and not money going into the relatives pocket it would be different. These people are saying "I'm mad because my relative died, but if you give me X amount of dollars I will be ok"
stuckingfk
Well-Known Member
What country do you live in?
"Money for service and such...that should be enough"
haha
Thanks for the laugh. If it is found that the crew was it at fault, expect big losses and settlement galore. I'd say most here if their loved ones were lost and it was somebody's fault, they're going to seek justice in the form of $$$.
spbrian
Well-Known Member
FAA = Administrative law
This = Civil
The pilots could be found to have done everything correct in this case and yet in civil court in front of a jury of peers still be found to have been negligent.
Don't have to wait to find out the real cause, speculation rules here.
-Brian
nosehair
Well-Known Member
Bingo! There's the answer. And if done properly, is a start to "changing" the whole FAA organization's incompetence. Training is inadequate because most accidents are pilot error and would have been preventable with more pilot training. Those are the facts.
People were killed, fault has not been determined, why is it stupid. rest assured if you were killed your family members would more than likely sue and vice-versa....
unclenobby
Well-Known Member
Aren't you putting a price on human life by saying they get money for services and such, and that should be enough? Obviously no amount of money will replace a loved one but families have got to survive. It's likely the soul on board was reponsible for putting food on the table, paying bills and the mortgage etc.
This is no way any commentary on the accident in question, just a response to the above post.
pullup
Homewrecker
According to law, attorneys are prohibited from contacting the victims families for 45 days after the crash. After that it's fair game.
They should sue. These pax paid money to buy a plane ticket. To get there safe and in one piece. That didn't happen. Most accidents turn out to be pilot error. In most NTSB reports when the cause comes out it usually will have the phrase "The pilots inability," or "Inadequate_____ by the pilot to_______ resulting in________. There may be a buch of other factors included but as long as that phrase is there the lawyers have their ammo. Airlines are doublely (sp) screwed because many people (jurors, judges) out there hate em.
Minnesota_Flyer
New Member
That varies widely state to state.
beechpilot
Well-Known Member
I hear you man. I didn't even think lawsuits could happen at all until causes were released, which they haven't been.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Not just passengers died in this crash. It's not like the pilots wanted to be killed. That being said, to blindly assume you're going to make it places safely, no matter what you're doing, is only being naive. Everything has an inherent danger in it.
When you're a part of the business, it's a lot harder to read "pilot error" because it could have been any of us up there. I can't second guess their split second decision.
beechpilot
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I hate seeing negativity about this crew. I've read a lot about them from people who actually knew them and flew with them and they seemed to me like a great crew with plenty of experience.